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Our Father (Netflix documentary)

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BettyFilous · 20/05/2022 22:23

This is a grimly fascinating documentary about a US fertility doctor who used his own sperm (instead of husbands’ or donors’) to impregnate his patients. It’s not easy viewing. The discussion from ~1 hour onwards on “unequal application of the law” will be depressingly familiar to FWR regulars.

www.netflix.com/gb/title/81227735

There’s ample media coverage should you be interested in reading around the case.

The one silver lining? Jacoba, who first twigged what was going on, is a shield maiden in the FWR mould. She has no fucks left to give, is not shutting up like the doctor wants and is not letting this drop. More power to her elbow. 💪

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user75 · 21/05/2022 07:34

I thought it was particularly horrendous when the fathers thought the children were biologically theres and he used him semen instead. He was a sociopath, i am sure. Jacoba was brilliant.

BettyFilous · 21/05/2022 14:32

Yeah, that was awful. The erstwhile fathers producing semen for the insemination at the clinic and he was swapping it out. The twin woman later in the show seemed utterly traumatised by her experiences, which I won’t elaborate in case anyone is yet to watch.

I thought it was interesting the 23 & me-type genealogy services have already thrown up 44 cases of this. Tip of a very large iceberg, I expect.

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Deliriumoftheendless · 21/05/2022 17:07

He really tried to manipulate her into not talking to the media didn’t he? Well done Jacoba for not falling for it.

BraveryBot9to5 · 21/05/2022 17:11

I watched this. He was a horror of a human being. Awful man. With a posse around him still singing his praises. Men are forgiven so easily. Women are forgiven for nothing.

IcakethereforeIam · 21/05/2022 19:57

I've not watched the documentary yet, so this may be covered, but this type of fraud seems frighteningly common. A quick Google search turned up a Guardian article about a Doctor in the Netherlands which references two others just in that country.

Delphinium20 · 21/05/2022 20:12

I just watched it and yes, Jacoba is one fierce woman. She's extraordinary.

What absolute vile behavior of his...and that smug DA who claimed he couldn't prosecute "emotional feelings'. It also seemed like the documentary suggested a white supremacy connection in the Indiana state government...that Quiverfull theory of the Duggar infamy. Excellent documentary. My heart goes out to all the families destroyed by that evil man.

RandomMess · 21/05/2022 20:27

I felt really disturbed my the whole thing. He still doesn't think he did anything wrong.

He wasn't the only one, just the most prolific one as yet discovered.

awkwardoldlady · 23/05/2022 11:55

There's a thing in management training where they teach you that all employees will / would steal 'in the right circumstances' which I won't go into here. I'm not totally sure 'all' is true but the point stands that you really can't assume that you can tell the difference so you must ensure that you avoid 'the right circumstances' arising. But as I've grown older this seems to be so similar to the case with men abusing women, disregarding their boundaries and wishes. 1) Access and opportunity 2) A belief that they can get away with it 2) the ability to justify their actions by offsetting good helpful or virtuous behaviour against the bad.

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