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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Guardian article repeatedly uses the word 'woman' and means it.

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MagnoliaTaint · 20/05/2022 16:25

Article on heart disease/health, and the inequalities faced by women. Not a mention of how it affects non-binary uterus-havers or anyone else! Shocking!

Look at this exclusionary horror:

'women and their doctors should be educated about certain female-specific factors that increase the risk of heart disease,'

Shock

and even:

'“Women are disadvantaged at so many stages in their heart journey – they are underdiagnosed, undertreated and underrepresented in research. There’s now an urgent need for more research to close this health gap in cardiovascular diseases seen in women across the UK and globally.

“It’s vital that we tackle the fundamental problems – to understand sex-specific risk factors for cardiovascular diseases, to improve participation of women in clinical trials so the evidence generated is equally applicable to them, and to guard against the unconscious biases which lead to women with heart disease receiving worse care than men.”'

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/may/09/lack-of-research-on-heart-disease-in-women-is-risking-lives-say-experts?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

I trust the writer, editor and anyone else will be reported to the relevant authorities forthwith.

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MarshaBradyo · 20/05/2022 16:28

It’s like the good old days

MagnoliaTaint · 20/05/2022 16:34

It is, isn't it? Remember when we were able to focus on these issues, potentially address health inequalities and maybe even save lives? Without ever wondering if doing so might hurt someone's feelings ...

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MagnoliaTaint · 20/05/2022 16:36

But then, you read this: ', It’s vital ... to improve participation of women in clinical trials so the evidence generated is equally applicable to them,'

And then think of Zoe and the covid reporting, that was gathering data on the basis of gender. Not sex.

And give up.

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NewBootsAndRanty · 20/05/2022 17:21

I did a double take at this the other day

Guardian article repeatedly uses the word 'woman' and means it.
MagnoliaTaint · 20/05/2022 17:23

Ooh, that is interesting, NewBoots.

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zafferana · 20/05/2022 17:24

Well fuck me! It's almost like sex is real and gender is this bullshit social construct isn't it?

ErrolTheDragon · 20/05/2022 17:24

Halle-bloody-lujah!

nepeta · 20/05/2022 18:37

I am going to wait on this a little. I doubt that the erasure of sex has ended at the Guardian, but it's harder to rewrite this whole piece in gender identity language as the editors have no way of knowing how those people would have identified (very few actually have abstract gender identities outside the gender identity ideology), and calling women vulva people might still be a bit too much.

Roseglen84 · 20/05/2022 21:07

NewBootsAndRanty · 20/05/2022 17:21

I did a double take at this the other day

Wow, that's incredible - in the Guardian?? I wonder if they got complaints, or have belatedly realised that consistently spouting bullshit is costing them subscribers?...

WarriorN · 20/05/2022 21:15

Wow bloody hell guardian. Are you slowly setting the scene for your u turn?

Confused about hummus as upf; surely the fibre the article mentions means it's a little healthy?!

nepeta · 20/05/2022 22:39

But the NHS has erased women everywhere. 'Men' have not been erased, though some online information has added trans women in the relevant parts.

This trend is asymmetric which shows how sexist it is. 'Women' is now viewed as only an abstract identity, so it makes sense to remove it from health information. Yet the vast majority of women are women because of being biologically female! We do not matter.

When I realised that, I started seeing it in many places. The gender identity religion has the goal of erasing us as a sex class and making it impossible to fight oppression based on sex. The trend has been so successful in this that fighting back is deemed bigoted.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/05/2022 22:44

It's written by the science editor. The sports editor is usually pretty sane too, isn't he? Almost like there are people who actually know something about physical reality...

TheBiologyStupid · 20/05/2022 22:51

About bloody time!

The phrase "so many stages in their heart journey" grated on my ears, but that's another story...!

MagnoliaTaint · 20/05/2022 22:53

Maybe the science bit and the sport bit and the Observer can join forces and rise up against the other bits of the paper ...

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Lavenderlast · 20/05/2022 22:58

nepeta · 20/05/2022 22:39

But the NHS has erased women everywhere. 'Men' have not been erased, though some online information has added trans women in the relevant parts.

This trend is asymmetric which shows how sexist it is. 'Women' is now viewed as only an abstract identity, so it makes sense to remove it from health information. Yet the vast majority of women are women because of being biologically female! We do not matter.

When I realised that, I started seeing it in many places. The gender identity religion has the goal of erasing us as a sex class and making it impossible to fight oppression based on sex. The trend has been so successful in this that fighting back is deemed bigoted.

Yep this.

DdraigGoch · 20/05/2022 23:49

Has Owen Jones thrown his toys out of the pram yet?

TheBiologyStupid · 21/05/2022 00:22

DdraigGoch · 20/05/2022 23:49

Has Owen Jones thrown his toys out of the pram yet?

Not that I've seen - past his bedtime?

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