Union of Students in Ireland has voted to boycott the Irish Times because they published a Stella O'Malley article

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/314e81b8-c641-11ec-aec3-018778242ce9?shareToken=033ee16d2b0cd2b3e540abceb4ed69c1

More details about the USI vote gcn.ie/usi-votes-boycott-irish-times/

Article that Stella wrote www.irishtimes.com/opinion/bill-to-ban-conversion-therapy-poses-problems-for-therapists-1.4642164

Well, young students are always reliable in their judgement of important political issues aren't they, and are not susceptible to groupthink and peer approval in the slightest right?

Fuck me. That is some brass neck they have there. This should peak a few thousand more people. Trying to dictate the editorial stance of a national newspaper. Could they not predict how this might backfire?

No editor could ever submit to this, their career would be over.

The editor who stands up to this however, folk hero in waiting

TBH it might be working, Colette Colfer wrote an article about gender identity being a new religion it was accepted for publication by the IT but cancelled twitter.com/fitzfromdublin/status/1518644948417097730

Broadsheet eventually published it www.broadsheet.ie/2022/04/26/colette-colfer-a-new-religion/

When I clicked to read the article on the Irish Times there was a link on the page about a 'Turf Burning Row', which briefly gave me the horrors.

So-called 'conversion therapy' for gender confused children really needs to be rebounded. It shouldn't be conflated with ct for homosexuals. I have nothing good to say about people who know the difference but still urge on the mob.

Sorry, rebranded not rebounded

Reminds me of those tweets which have a picture of a little Japanese anime girl holding a gun with the text 'Silence, TERF'.

Chinese cultural revolution, take 2.

Typical spoilt brat behaviour from the students union. The scary thing is how many of these people happy to promote thought control end up in politics. We are in for a quite few bumpy years I fear.

They can be put into the Seanad by the votes of their college alumni. They'll abandoned gender woo in due course. But by then the damage will be done

The petulant demand of these students is ridiculous - from the USI article:

The union had previously demanded that the Irish Times withdraw and apologise for the article, as well as take practical steps to create a “Trans-inclusive editorial line.”

FFS, they really cannot deal with any deviation from 'right think'.

I do wonder if in years to come, whether any or all of these self proclaimed 'activists' will realise the hypocrisy of their actions? Or, as a PP states, maybe they won't even care about the damage they have done.

I came across this being discussed on Twitter by a group of people I don't follow. All the trans activists commenting said the same thing which is that their existence is not subject to debate and that their human rights are not subject to debate.

That this equates 'existence' and 'human rights' with "we must be able to have everything we have, including redefining all relevant vocabulary and requiring all others to completely acquiesce to our subjective view of reality" cannot then be debated, either.

And of course nobody debates their existence as human beings or denies them the same human rights others are supposed to have. But rights and demands for rights clash in this particular case because trans rights are being largely carved out of women's rights, and we need to have a clear answer to the question why only some subjective and unverifiable beliefs (the existence of an abstract inner gender identity) should be legally forced on everyone when the UK and the US and Ireland don't do that with religious beliefs, for instance.

I could argue that my existence is erased when 'woman' is no longer to be defined on the basis of biological sex, using their concepts of 'existence' and 'erased'. And so would the existence of millions and millions and millions of other men and women.

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Like I said in earlier post, brat like behaviour; you have to accept my gender larping is in fact real and based in science even though I can't offer any proof but I will scream the roof down if you dare question a word of what I have said.

I do think, based on the other thread about Napier University and the midwifery students, that there are probably quite a number of students just going along with this who are too afraid to speak out. I remember being that age, and to be fair I don't know how strong I would have been to stand up against this onslaught.

Another quote from the article : “I, as a Trans woman, am not up for debate” to me makes very little sense. I mean, you exist, there you are. That doesn't mean I or anyone else has to agree with your self image. I mean nobody gets to decide how the rest of the world sees them! Bizarre.

This makes me think that perhaps they are being railroaded by a few loud aggressive voices who are controlling the narrative and shouting down anyone who dares question it.

They also mention the British media as some sort of warning klaxon. It's very frustrating that the Irish media in general are so captured by this, and by extension the general attitude in Ireland is 'ah sure it's grand what's the problem'...the apathy is troubling.