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Genderism - a new religion

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DomesticatedZombie · 27/04/2022 16:51

Interesting article that was first published in the Irish Times, and then apparently removed.

'I’ve been lecturing on world religions for sixteen years. Prior to this, I worked as a journalist and often wrote articles and made radio programmes about Ireland’s changing religious landscape.
As someone who is hugely interested in religion, I have noticed that as the Catholic Church is declining in importance in Ireland, new belief systems are emerging to take up some of the spaces vacated. One of these in particular – gender identity theory – is rising to prominence and quickly becoming dominant.'

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/a-new-religion

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Cailleach1 · 27/04/2022 17:10

Completely agree with that. I grew up at a time where it was looked like the screwing over of women was in retreat. Then another lot of woman oppressing, utter bolleaux was imported via Yogayartha.

'scuse my french.

MissPollysFitDolly · 27/04/2022 17:10

A new religion with its own chants and incantations. As ever the high priests are male and females are disadvantaged.

IcakethereforeIam · 27/04/2022 17:16

Even has transubstantiation.

Cailleach1 · 27/04/2022 17:19

'Yogayakarta'. You see. Hardly anyone in Ireland had ever heard of it. Yet women are being imprisoned with male rapists and sexual offenders because a lot of powerful and influential lobbyists decided they would try to push men's 'wants' irrespective of how it would affect women and children.

Of course, the Irish gov't wanted to appear right on, and implemented this stuff without engagement of a single brain cell. Legislation without proper reflection or f*cks to give over women's rights to safety, privacy, or dignity. Bring the good old days back!

It was roughly a 89% male parliament, I believe. Will check.

nepeta · 27/04/2022 17:22

It is certainly a cult. The concept of heresy applies (any insider saying even one wrong thing gets thrown the concept of apostates apply (detransitioners), shunning dissenters applies.

And the devotees do not ally logical debate as these are questions of faith in their minds, not debatable. The extreme language aimed at anyone who even gently asks questions (you are annihilating us) is a cult thing.

I don't know how having to turn one's brain off works here, but it seems to work in all cults for enough people so that cults continue to exist. This one is particularly dangerous in its effects, though, and there is a strong push for it to be ordered to apply to the whole society.

Wanderingowl · 27/04/2022 17:24

It's on Broadsheet. Comments are quite encouraging overall when you consider how very captured Ireland appears to be.

www.broadsheet.ie/2022/04/26/colette-colfer-a-new-religion/

DomesticatedZombie · 27/04/2022 19:05

control is a feature of many groups to a greater or lesser extent. This can be achieved through various means, but I think quite often seeking vulnerable people to convert to the cause is a good way to start building dependencies.

It has been discussed before, but in some ways the baffling nonsensical nature of some of the genderist creed works in its favour. People think - this is so 'out there' that there must surely be more to it. It has to be accepted on faith, because it excludes logical thinking and verifiable truths. So you have a faith based proposition, which can't be disproven, because it's about how hard you believe in it, not whether its verifiable or quantifiable or supported by evidence. (Not sure I'm explaining this very well - 'its harder to kill a phantom than a reality' as Virginia Woolf said).

Only if you start pulling a little thread, it all collapses and unravels, quite fast. As Sajid Javid has just discovered, as I suspect Hillary Cass is working out.

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nepeta · 27/04/2022 19:38

Not sure I'm explaining this very well - 'its harder to kill a phantom than a reality' as Virginia Woolf said)

This, exactly. For me to talk about these issues with anyone I have to first turn the phantom ideas into something concrete, and most people begin by thinking that I have gone insane, that it cannot really be the case certain things are happening.

It's a way to turn the phantom into something concrete, but the first suspicion of others is that I am a horrible lying Nazist bigot. Those who do further research come back later admitting that I was right about what is taking place.

I was in their shoes once so I know the process.

SeanChailleach · 27/04/2022 21:07

Ooh hallo @Cailleach1 (smiles and waves).
This thread reminds me of "believing six impossible things before breakfast". Who said that?

DomesticatedZombie · 27/04/2022 21:38

Alice in Wonderland, can't remember which character, though.

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nepeta · 27/04/2022 21:44

DomesticatedZombie · 27/04/2022 21:38

Alice in Wonderland, can't remember which character, though.

I think it was the Red Queen in Through The Looking Glass.

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