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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sexpressions group in DD's school

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malloo · 24/04/2022 15:07

A group called 'Sexpressions' has been at DD's school running a session on 'gender identity'. Parents were not told this was happening, it was included in a newsletter after it had happened. DD said it was 'fine' but she thinks I'm transphobic so no doubt wouldn't tell me if it wasn't and won't give any detail. I'm going to contact the school but thought I'd check on here first to see if anyone knows anything about this group.

Their website says Sexpression:UK is a near-peer independent UK charity with the goal of empowering young people to make decisions about relationships and sex by running informal and comprehensive RSHE in the community.

It doesn't say much about what they actually stand for but I'm not at all keen on what I see on this page. sexpression.org.uk/curriculum/ For example they have a 'dictionary' of terms that includes such gems as:

Male-to-female. Used to refer to trans women. Some trans women
do not like this term because it supports the myth that they have not
always been women
LGBT+. Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender. Variations include (LGBTQ+
(LGBT+), LGBTQIA+ (LGBT+, Intersex, Asexual/Aromantic), LGBTQUA+
(LGBT+, Undefined/Unassigned, Asexual/Aromantic)). Some LGBT+
people consider this acronym problematic since it is unwieldy and, as
our understanding of gender and sexuality grows, it will only get longer.
As an alternative, most people use LGBT+, however some people
feel uncomfortable with cishet people using LGBT+, due to its history
as a slur. Moreover, several LGBT+ people value the ability to express
their particular identity as part of that. Most significantly, always include
the + otherwise it comes across as exclusionary and emphasises
the hierarchies within the LGBT+ community.

So it's pretty clear where they're coming from.

For info, I'm in Scotland, and DD is in S1, age 13.

OP posts:
BigNoseBaby · 25/04/2022 11:27

"Some trans women
do not like this term because it supports the myth that they have not
always been women"

This one always confuses me. If they've always been women then what are they 'trans'itioning from?

EufyProsser · 25/04/2022 11:31

however some people feel uncomfortable with cishet people using LGBT+, due to its history as a slur

The constant manipulation of language to keep well-intentioned people nervous about accidentally causing offence is such an insidious tactic as used by 'OMG MUM NO ONE SAYS COOL ANY MORE' teens throughout history. Has LGBT+ ever been used as a slur? I genuinely don't think so. And yet here's another linguistic trap to dance around.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/04/2022 11:41

Some trans women do not like this term because it supports the myth that they have not always been women

And this is why this ideology will eventually collapse in on itself when it's based on obvious untruths. The fact that our children are taught to believe in fantasy and woowoo over facts and the truth is the problem we have.

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 28/04/2022 20:42

In many schools, this is taught as part of the curriculum (I've seen it in RE).

Why would they need parents permission to teach the curriculum?

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