"Nearly one in every 15 pupils at a leading secondary school identify as trans or non-binary - with majority declaring their gender change after lockdown last summer"

[ResisterRex]

In the Mail

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10746771/Nearly-one-15-pupils-leading-secondary-school-identify-trans-non-binary.html

• More than 60 have declared their gender to be different from their birth sex
• A teacher said the pupils were aged between 11 and 18 and almost all were girls
• They added staff were ‘blundering in the dark’ without government guidance

"The majority have done so since most Covid-19 lockdown restrictions were lifted last summer, raising concern about the impact of online trans ‘influencers’ on youngsters who were largely confined to their homes for months."

"Fearful of criticism or censure, she claimed many colleagues feel obliged to accept the situation even when they have concerns about a student’s mental health or that they may be subject to peer pressure.
The revelation comes days after Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi said officials were drawing up ‘clear’ guidance on how teachers should deal with trans pupils."

Miriam Cates is quoted and the school in question, is anonymous.

Interesting too that Ireland is right at the front in terms of self-id, a stance I think is driven by a keenness to move away from the Catholic days of old to a new liberal stance. I think there has been little public discussion about it until Sonia O’Sullivan talked about transwomen in sport.

The only reason ace is now being pushed is cos that was the defence for destroying a child's future sexual function with puberty blockers. Its apparently ok cos some of those children would have been asexual any way.

They are always small and a little chubby with short hair

Yes! Very frequently. I see them not being ‘girlie’, then being further pushed into the ‘not properly girlie’ box by their female peers who are interested in fashion and make up. They don’t or can’t take part in ‘girlie’ discussions, so they feel less and less like a girl. They look in the mirror and compare themselves with ‘real’ girls at school or the celebs like the Kardashians with their hourglass figures, pouts, eyebrows and glamour.

They then declare themselves NB and feel that has reduced the pressure to be ‘girlie’, and also elevated them in the social order a bit because they’re now ‘trans’. They get treated with more care and interest by their teachers. They now have some cachet.

IMO, what’s needed is a huge focus on what I thought we’d dealt with in the 70s and 80s - namely that there’s no one way to be a girl. You can look how you want, wear what you want, have short hair or long or anything in between. You can like pink, you can like blue. You can like babies and cooking, hate babies and cooking, be neutral about babies and cooking. You can like Maths, sport, weightlifting, rugby or whatever sport you enjoy.

I would also specifically refer to stereotypes and why they might exist, and who they might favour. I would show the life of women through the decades, including the huge move forward - and then the current move backwards. That should start in primary school and be massively reinforced. Boys should, of course, have something similar.

I can’t believe how we’re at this point in 2022.

I can’t believe we’re at this point either. I’m beginning to think I grew up during a small window where we were told girls could be anything, do anything etc. it was far from perfect (plenty sexual harassment), but no one was trying to disassociate from themselves because they thought they weren’t good enough to be a girl/don’t do being a girl right etc.

We also had the happy acceptance of asexual as an identity. When my daughter was 13 she announced she was asexual and nb. Her Year Head told us we needed to accept her “asexual identity”. Seriously, WTF. I have raised this comment at every level of the school and no one has ever batted an eyelid. Why they can’t understand that maybe, just maybe she was asexual because she was 13 is beyond me. It’s like we’re all living through the looking glass.

This is really disturbing. Is there any way of finding out if a school is a Stonewall partner? I’ve been looking at a few for my granddaughter and can’t see anything on the various websites. It’s not something I feel you could ask at an open day.

Fucking hell, ‘asexual identity’?! I was also asexual at 13, the thought of sex was scary and disgusting and I wasn’t participating in any sexual activity! Guess what… that changed!

The whole ‘identify as…’ shit cannot be over soon enough. It’s exhausting and ludicrous. Poor you having to listen to that crap!

3peas I understand the nervousness behind asking but I think we are definitely at the point now where you have to ask. If our school went this route, I would be looking for a new one and that's it. Ours isn't but I did quiz them about access to tech and phones on the open day. I asked all the places we looked about that as unfettered, day long access was a make-or-break decision for me.

I agree @rogdmum. It wasn't perfect but there were boundaries. Boys would never ever have tried what I've read on Everyone's Invited. Not to say we were all innocent little angel children but what I've read on there is a world away from my childhood. There has to be a link between the porn-soaked world and these attempts to escape womanhood. There just has to be.

The whole ‘identify as…’ shit cannot be over soon enough. It’s exhausting and ludicrous. Poor you having to listen to that crap!

I don't know why people are afraid to say no. I hated dresses and skirts as a kid ( still do) but I wore them because I had to. And yes I did feel the sexism was unfair in that girls had to wear skirts and no trousers were allowed but there's nothing wrong with noticing these things and pointing them out. We all had to wear stuff we hated. Christenings, funerals, grandma's birthday. If we'd kicked off about identities amd hurting ourselves if we had to wear a dress for one meal when we could wear what we wanted the Rest of the time we were at home we'd have been given a slap. The wooden spoon.

Now we make everyone indulge tantrums because having to wear a school skirt is the same as wanting them to die. It's ridiculous.

This is where we are. This is what you have to wear. Fight the sexism/inequalities if you have to. No trousers is outdated and sexist.

But your identity is yours and yours alone. No one else cares. No one else has any responsibility for it.Don't bother becoming a paramedic ir fire fighter cos you'd be in the same jump suit or turn out hear as everyone else. The horror 🙄

Nothing wrong with saying No. Toddlers and dogs can cope. Adults amd teens should.

The whole ‘identify as…’ shit cannot be over soon enough. It’s exhausting and ludicrous.

This!!!
todays delight from our local paper (possibly needs its own thread) just shows how ridiculous this trend has become. I can’t believe people actively accept this and embrace it
www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/paedophile-who-identifies-as-girl-5-avoids-jail-266024/

In what world is any of this acceptable? Who the hell would even acknowledge that a 60 year old man is entitled to identify as a 5 years old girl? Stop the world I want to fucking get off 😤

As appalling as this is I don't think there is any suggestion he was in any treated throughout the process as a 5 year old girl, nor sentenced as a 5 year old girl.

People are so misinformed when they say than people transition because of peer pressure. I’ve spent the past 4 years of my life being harassed as I walk down the street in the worst mental pain I cannot even describe. It’s up to the students if they feel they’re a different gender it’s not like they’re going to get a phalloplasty the next day, in fact the waiting list is up to 4 years long. And it’s not really any of our business it not like drinking witch has manny bad side effects which can kill you being trans is horrible but it won’t wreck your liver so I don’t see the concern.

Aqublu, are you getting help for your mental distress?

An interesting perspective, yet not one backed by fact.

Gender is nothing to do with sex, in either sense of the word.

Hopefully it'll all become too mainstream and stop being cool.

It's on the way.

Kids genuinely don't care. They just don't. It's adults with the beef.

I'm surprised it's not higher too. I think it will be higher in some schools... In my peer group (many are parents of teenagers) I would say it's 1 in 5. Lefty progressive families largely.

Do lesbians not dress feminine? Do straight girls not dress butch?

Yet a number of people who argue against transgender claim it's a ploy by girls to not be sexually attractive to boys.