Plymouth University

[FatFucker]

Apologies for the Daily Mail link but WTF!!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10742211/Plymouth-University-tells-women-not-challenge-people-think-men-using-toilets.html

Gaslighting young women, just #Bekind ladies, who cares about your safety!

So bloody angry. It's one step forward and ten steps back.!

I have seen pictures of the same posters or posters with exactly the same words though different backgrounds in the toilets of at least two other universities in the UK. So the campaign is not just in Plymouth.

Oh that's awful!! Maybe we should get posters made to cover them up!

This! Isn't it wierd but you're right, I'd feel safer too.

That poster is actually quite upsetting. Women just don't matter at all, do we? We are nothing more than props and support humans. And if we are uncomfortable with anything then that is just tough shit because males always come first.

My DD did her degree here, 18 months of zero teaching staff contact, even after LD lifted.
No replies from emails asking for help/explanation or assistance.

BUT they did know how to put on a very good Graduation party, knew how to charge a fortune for it and show the Uni and their chancellery in the best possible light.... fuck their fee paying students.

So no surprise they focus on non teaching issues.

I was at an open day at York University yesterday which have ‘all genders welcome’ toilets.

“Designating all gender toilets on campus is a positive and welcoming message to trans and non-binary individuals and provides facilities that are inclusive.”

Interestingly, it was the dads who were the most flustered. Due to the nature of the event it was a load of eighteen year olds and then a load of people in their forties and fifties. It was a busy event so a man would be going into the toilets and a eighteen year old woman would be coming out or following them in at the same time. I also noticed men waiting outside for their daughters not really enjoying the sight of their daughter entering the toilets followed by three men.

I asked my own dd how she felt about all the men in the toilets and she said

‘Oh my god, it’s completely fine there is nothing wrong with it’

So still I wait.

Were the York loos fully enclosed or just the usual cubicles, @JazzApple? Were the girls using loos alongside men using urinals?

I’d take the sign down every time I saw it tbh x

They were fully enclosed and there were no urinals.

It still felt really uncomfortable though. Like I said it was the dads I noticed being the most uncomfortable. Probably because we are more used to this bollocks.

At my local university a particularly intrepid pervert actually created his own “gender neutral toilet , please be kind” signs which he attached to the women’s toilets. He then hung around in there, masturbating whenever a woman went into a cubicle. He was only caught when he exposed himself to children in a park and they (I guess not having learned the be kind message) went and told their mum. He’s currently in jail. But according to Plymouth university he has ever right to be in there and the women would have been evil bigots if they said anything. It’s like all common sense has gone completely. Why is society pretending that men never sexually predate?

I can't blame men feeling uncomfortable. Most guys I know hate the idea of 'gender neutral' toilets. Some are afraid of causing offense inadvertently or be seen as some kind of pervert for wanting to be were women pee. The honest ones have said they would find it embarrassing going to the toilet if there were girls present as it is not something they are used to. Maybe if more men speak out the decision will change as god knows, women are being ignored.

I love this: twitter.com/Aja02537920/status/1379854492913504259?t=WJVM1Rgso7xYebRuwfc58w&s=08

This poster is so offensive to me as a woman. But being familiar with Plymouth University I'm not surprised, the organisation's knowledge and application of the Equality Act is generally awful.

Nasty gaslighting bastards who came up with that sign.

If I feel uncomfortable because there’s clearly a bloke in the women’s loos, I feel uncomfortable. As is my fucking right.

I’ve just finished at a different uni- they didn’t give a shit about women’s rights to privacy either. Similar signs. They got incredibly tetchy when someone put an adult human female sticker up in my student accommodation toilets. I can’t remember for sure but I think they referred to that in an email as a ‘hate crime’.

Gosh can't toilets just be for any sex like they are in Europe, at festivals, disabled toilets .... and in peoples homes.

Lessofallthisunpleasantness
Do you leave your front door open so that random strangers off the street can walk in and use it? If not, why is that?

I wonder if universities will lose students over this kind of thing? My daughter recently changed her mind about attending where she had planned, in part because they did not have a dedicated women's residence. Universities where we are are desperate to attract students.

Can't compare this - festival portaloos and disabled loos aren't in enclosed quarters, they generally open up to the outside, this is not a problem, except for the man piss.

Toilets at home I'm afraid has been shot down as an argument long time ago, unless you open your front door and share your toilets with the general public i.e. strangers which I'm guessing no one does!

It's been a long time since I was in Europe so I don't know about their loo situation though...