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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dorries: it's impossible for TW to compete in women's sport

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ResisterRex · 21/04/2022 21:59

This might even be part of a longer interview but all I see is this clip:

mobile.twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1517235602516852736?cxt=HHwWgIC-ib3vpo4qAAAA

"I am absolutely of the opinion that it is impossible for a trans woman to compete in women’s sport"

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DameHelena · 22/04/2022 16:38

I really really loathe saying this, but I 100% agree with and support the (generally appalling) Dorries here.
Now, if only she were so sensible about Channel 4...

AHF00 · 22/04/2022 23:07

FloJo was almost certainly a drug cheat and died at 38 of heart failure due to steroid abuse. So the best ever women's 100m sprint in reality is 10.61s, 10.7% slower than the fastest male!

HPFA · 23/04/2022 08:09

This has to be the worst result of trans activism - making us agree with something said by Nadine Dorries.

SoggyPaper · 23/04/2022 12:05

HPFA · 23/04/2022 08:09

This has to be the worst result of trans activism - making us agree with something said by Nadine Dorries.

Haha

I guess it’s more a reflection if quite how extreme the position so many very vocal TRAs have taken is that the group of people who find it troubling is now extremely wide.

viques · 23/04/2022 13:43

@tabbycatstripy

unfortunately, although there is no evidence it appears almost certain that Joyner was a cheat. The Seoul Olympics were a fairly grubby affair as far as drug cheating went, the Canadian who came first in the mens 100m, Ben Johnson, was stripped of his medal, and Carl Lewis, who was then elevated to gold later admitted and was quite defiant about taking drugs - although there is no evidence he cheated in Seoul. The boundaries were a lot more fluid then.

I think it is widely believed and quietly accepted that Joyner did take drugs, although she was never found to have done so, in retrospect her very early death is often cited as the result of heart failure from steroid abuse, and the fact that even today, despite 30 years of huge advances in training techniques, conditioning, nutrition, shoe design, track surfaces etc her record has been pretty unreachable by other female athletes is also seen as questionable. Such a shame, she was an amazing character off and on the track and was undoubtably a phenomenal runner.

She stands as a prescient warning though, if women’s records and sporting achievements mean anything they have to be achieved by women who are competing drug free, not by women who are taking drugs, and even more importantly not by men. Otherwise they are meaningless. Records are like pie crust, made to be broken, and women’s records need to be both achieved, and then broken, by women..

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