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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If women were in charge ... Estonian Prime Minister

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DomesticatedZombie · 15/04/2022 22:11

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/if-a-woman-was-running-russia-thered-be-no-war-in-ukraine-h9w99b087

' Kaja Kallas considers whether the invasion of Ukraine might never have happened if a woman was in charge of the Kremlin.

The Estonian prime minister is one of a new generation of female leaders in the region, along with her counterparts in Lithuania, Sweden, Denmark and Finland.

“When I see the pictures from Ukraine, when I’m making the decisions to give them more help, I’m constantly thinking how sad it is that all the military equipment that is destroyed is not going to profit any economy or the wellbeing of any people,” she says. “Maybe it’s very sexist, but I’m still going to say it: if you have given birth to human life, taking away the life of another mother’s child is just so cruel.”'

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DoubleYouOhEmAyEn · 17/04/2022 08:39

Interesting test she feels able to say so. I can see how she's come that view in the case of Ukraine, however I and many others on this board lived through the Falklands war, with Thatcher at the helm.

Abhannmor · 17/04/2022 09:08

Some of us remember Mrs Golda ' there are no Palestinians ' Meir.

PaterPower · 17/04/2022 09:37

Difficult to prove - there are as many small-c conservative female politicians as there are liberal leaning ones.

And our current Home Secretary is doing a pretty good job of debunking the myth that women care more than men. I suspect that even Thatcher would have found this whole Rwanda plan beyond the pale.

DomesticatedZombie · 17/04/2022 09:48

She's talking about killing people, not having conservative political views. Bit odd to conflate the two, I would say.

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PaterPower · 17/04/2022 16:22

You think Priti Useless wouldn’t send our troops off to kill or be killed if she ever gets in the position where she could? Particularly if she thought it would bolster her political position (as the Falklands did for Maggie’s)?

Regardless of how many women would like to think so, I don’t see that being born female automatically makes someone more empathetic towards their fellow humans. Which is the point I was driving at originally - with the Home Secretary’s record as an exemplar.

Nellodee · 17/04/2022 16:36

Just because a few women are evil wankers doesn't necessarily mean there are as many female evil wankers as males.

However, just because there are fewer evil wanker females, doesn't mean that they won't be the more likely females to rise to power, either.

zanahoria · 17/04/2022 18:16

,“Maybe it’s very sexist, but I’m still going to say it: if you have given birth to human life, taking away the life of another mother’s child is just so cruel.”

What about women who have not given birth?

BattyOrange · 17/04/2022 18:29

What about women who have not given birth?

Not trying to be deliberately cruel/insensitive/pokey here but Kaja Kallas was specifically referencing mothers in that quote. There's no indication of how she thinks women who haven't given birth respond to the taking away the life of any mother's child.

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