I've come out on LinkedIn

[zaramysaviour]

As most of you will know, LinkedIn has had the KoolAid re pronouns recently. I'm looking for a new job, and modestly have had a fair bit of interest there and am on a few shortlists. But. I came across this tonight. I don't care if I lose jobs because of it. I am DONE.

emjaymurphee.medium.com/no-you-cannot-have-my-gender-pronouns-5b2f6b7e418a

I wrote [something like]:

"Studies show that women are disadvantaged because of their sex. No, I won't share my pronouns. It perpetuates gender stereotypes and sex discrimination."

Waiting to be put on the cancel list in three, two...

Nice one OP - if nothing else it’ll sort the wheat from the chaff with regard to potential employers!

I'm intrigued about the response you'll get. I hope there's a GC employer who will snap you up.

Well done!

Good luck!

Good for you!!!

I am sick of seeing the bullshit on there. Luckily enough my new employer (from next month) hasn't made people declare them yet....it may be 1 of the reasons I took the job. 🙄🤣

Thank you, lovely vipers! Natch I'm already freaking out about it, but your responses are cheering me on. I really feel I have immediately sliced half my potential work market, but on the other hand, I am sick of this shit and literally would rather go back to manual/retail work than put up with this.

I signed up for paid LinkedIn a month ago (free trial) and the algorithm means I am getting 7+ job invites every day. My (GC) other half insists it's a jobseekers' market...

Well done. The more women who can do this, the more it encourages others to do the same.
If I used LinkedIn I would join you.

Please come back and update us when there are developments

Well done! I'm self employed and use linked in a lot. Fed up of being constantly asked to add my pronouns on there - it's like one of my kids asking for for a snack after I've already said no a bajillion times. The contract-based nature of my work, in an increasingly woke industry, means coming out like this would be career suicide for me, unfortunately. Instead I've convinced myself that the non-pronouners are secret allies

I’ve been out on LinkedIn for a while. There is a growing GC community on there.

@zaramysaviour yes I work in recruitment - craziest it’s been ever, a candidates market. You will find something that aligns with your values!

To the other poster saying they think the non pronoun announcers are secret allies, I’ve also convinced myself this haha. Some people also just add them just because they are asked and think nothing of it I think.

[quote Blackandwhitehorse]@zaramysaviour yes I work in recruitment - craziest it’s been ever, a candidates market. You will find something that aligns with your values!

To the other poster saying they think the non pronoun announcers are secret allies, I’ve also convinced myself this haha. Some people also just add them just because they are asked and think nothing of it I think.[/quote]
Yes, I do think most ppl add them without really thinking about it/being 'kind' etc. Which is is why it seems a Big Deal to say nope, not doing it...

No response on LI yet, but I will update. As above, it seems to be a jobseekers' market at the minute, so hopefully I will find something. I'm lucky in that after many years working for low pay in my field my skills are now apparently fairly sought after. But as above, I'll go back to my lower paid stuff if I have to, rather than submit to this.

(FYI my field is content/writing/journalism/fiction, if anyone would like to PM... :) )

I got approached by a recruitment company on LinkedIn for a senior position which sounded perfect. Working with women and girls, I read the JD and the job couldn't have been more perfect.

The recruiter phoned me up and I was so excited about getting put forward for interview, and asked who the organisation was ..... Girlguiding!!

Cue long silence as I digest this. I tell the recruiter that this is not an organisation I can work for, there are huge child safeguarding concerns and proceeded to explain the background.

I later emailed the recruiter with more info and asked if they could please pass on the reason for my non interest in the role.

In retrospect I wish I HAD gone to interview and try to make them squirm with safeguarding questions!

I also got offered an interview for another role through LinkedIn but when I looked on the company's website it was all pro nouns. Yup I judged and didn't take up the interview invitation.

Sorry for slight derail OP, but have been desperate to tell the girl guiding story.

@WhiteBadger

I got approached by a recruitment company on LinkedIn for a senior position which sounded perfect. Working with women and girls, I read the JD and the job couldn't have been more perfect.

The recruiter phoned me up and I was so excited about getting put forward for interview, and asked who the organisation was ..... Girlguiding!!

Cue long silence as I digest this. I tell the recruiter that this is not an organisation I can work for, there are huge child safeguarding concerns and proceeded to explain the background.

I later emailed the recruiter with more info and asked if they could please pass on the reason for my non interest in the role.

In retrospect I wish I HAD gone to interview and try to make them squirm with safeguarding questions!

I also got offered an interview for another role through LinkedIn but when I looked on the company's website it was all pro nouns. Yup I judged and didn't take up the interview invitation.

Sorry for slight derail OP, but have been desperate to tell the girl guiding story.

Ha, no problem - I withdrew my GG volunteer application re this. You are fucking awesome telling them exactly why!

I do seriously think I've been blacklisted in certain circles though. Me, who's been bullied and experienced literal violence since the 80s, growing up in an extremely poor/deprived w/c area, beaten up more than once for 'being a lesbian'. (I'm straight, not that it should matter!)

My journo sense tells me there's a huge GG story to tell...

Fab, OP. There may be people who 'cancel' women with feminist views.

There are plenty more who will agree & admire you for them.

I work in quite a woke environment without several she/her colleagues. I would love to see GC stuff on LI, even just so I can give things the odd like, perhaps encouraging others on there to do the same.

I too have hoped that those who don’t have pronouns are secret allies. It is always a bit gutting though to see someone you previously respected append pronouns to their bio. Most recently an incredibly intelligent barrister I know in her 50s. I’d always thought she would definitely be GC and couldn’t believe it when I saw she’d added she/her to her name.

With not without!

I dump folx with pronouns in LinkedIn. It’s always people who look their bio sex, who are their bio sex and use their correct pronouns. I can’t be bothered with them.

Good for your OP. Your post reminded me to do another sweep of my feed and remove the Pronoun People that pop up. Found quite a few this time. I also "celebrated" a couple of posts by Maya while I was there.

LinkedIn really annoys me. I cannot believe how many people declare their pronouns on there and therefore their support for sterilising children with puberty blockers and young girls cutting their breasts off. If they don't realise that's what they are supporting then they really are vacuous virtue signalling idiots.

Oh oh and I was a member of a woman’s group which seemed to be what it said in the tin - who went and decided to post a whole ‘inspirational trans women’ on some ‘day of trans visibility’ (yes I know) and included - of course, Malcolm Michaels. No trans men.

A couple of women did comment ‘WTF??’
But there were a few fawning ninnies.

I bounced but liked to a couple of interesting women!

I've noticed far less He/Him pronouns than She/Her or They/Them in the email and written word.

I spotted my first ever She/They email pronoun the other day.

Was rather surprised to have seen a blog article about me (I had drafted it on request). My friend spotted it and let me know. The blog owners had neglected to tell me it had been published and had put everyone's pronouns as They/Them.
I know the others featured in the blog. We are all She/Her and many had submitted their drafts with their preferred pronouns.
So far none of the non-female presenting colleagues have written their blog yet so we've yet to see whether men/males are also designated with the They/Them treatment as us women/females !

I also redrafted my blog making my own preferred pronoun related changes. A male colleague has offered to draft theirs to see how it's treated. A non-binary colleague said they will write theirs up and they wish to explain why they prefer their pronouns They/Them/Theirs, which is helpful, informative and they have actively chosen to do so.

I have to say I was surprised to be mis-(non-cis?!) gendered in the first place given that I had provided my soddin' preferred pronouns already!

When you wrote the blog and it’s posted - do remember to send a daily update if your pronouns of choice to make sure the keenly up to date.

'A non-binary colleague said they will write theirs up and they wish to explain why they prefer their pronouns They/Them/Theirs, which is helpful, informative and they have actively chosen to do so.'

Which is great, of course - if someone wants to be they/them, more power to them; obviously I'll respect their wishes. But as a PP said, the Pronoun People on LI it always seem to be those who present/look/are named as the 'gender' they're pronoun-ing. So it just looks like virtue signalling to me, and that the person is a bit... uncritical.

People can prefer all they like - but do the actually believe that everyone else will remember everyone else’s preferences and ensure they are used at all times?

I’ve got enough going on In the real world