Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Which primaries are safe(r)?

11 replies

CrapColdCoffee · 11/04/2022 10:18

So DD is starting school this September. I lurked on Education board, but thought I might need your perspective- I think we made a mistake with our first choice school Sad.

We picked a school in a nice area, just over a mile from us- nice medium size, good rep seemed lovely. But an ex-stonewall school. I asked all the right questions and it seemed fine. However I stumbled upon their current PSHE materials and there are several Stonewall suggested books about gender! All depends what angle the teacher would take but it worries me. It's a CoE school.

We could possibly send her to our catchment school as it's undersubscribed. It's a non religious academy but a big school, however very working class so it might be a bit less 'woke'? Cant's access their PSHE materials but I heard the headteacher praising JKR as an author, but after she came out as a TERF Grin.

What are your experiences with primaries?
DD already knows both boys and girls can have any haircuts and wear pink, but I'd rather not have her indoctrinated when she's very young. It's such a minefield!

OP posts:
FOJN · 11/04/2022 10:44

When you say you can't access the PSHE material is it because the school have refused to let you see it or its not accessible online? You could ask to see the material if it's the latter and guage their response.

CrapColdCoffee · 11/04/2022 11:05

@FOJN I can't access the local school's lesson plans, I can see their statement of intent and some suggested materials, none of which raise any alarms. They do follow PSHE association which mentions 'gender identity' in KS2. Not ideal, but I think the only way to avoid it altogether would be sending her to a Catholic School? In which case she'd be listening about God instead!
I don't really want to be 'that' parent even before DD starts school...
I know they are 100% keeping their loos single sex as I asked during the open days. Head teacher was calling JKR a hero (due to how she rose from rags to riches and her charity work).
Just wondering how bad it could really be.

OP posts:
CrapColdCoffee · 11/04/2022 11:09

Plus on their social media they share things like 'Happy Mother's Day!' 'Happy International Women's Day' and I haven't seen anything mentioning the alphabet people on their timeline, ever.

OP posts:
334bu · 11/04/2022 11:12

Welcome to Mumsnet. Just ask the HT to see material being used.

CrapColdCoffee · 11/04/2022 11:17

I name changed, as I've been posting re schools a lot and don't want to be identified! Do I just casually e-mail them then?
Sorry it makes me feel like ABU even though I know I'm not.

OP posts:
MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/04/2022 11:24

Safe Schools Alliance have lots of useful material OP. If it's an ex Stonewall school then it might suggest that there are now adults in charge?
This is going to be an issue in most schools with younger teachers having been brainwashed at university. BUT, as the evidence is stacking up about the harm being done to children by an ideology, I do think things will slowly change. The evidence of social contagion is overwhelming and with #nodebate having finally been binned I think fact and reality will be making a cautious return in many schools. And what matters is the quality of education and pastoral care.

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/

hazelnutlatte · 11/04/2022 11:27

I think you are overthinking. Secondary schools are full of gender woo but it's really not a thing in most primary schools. If there is a lesson covering gender identity you could just ask for the lesson plan at the time and keep your kids off school that day if it's inappropriate. It really shouldn't be a major factor in what school to choose.
My kids are at a C of E primary school. The teaching assistant in my daughters class is a transwoman. There has been absolutely no discussion of trans issues with the class, my kids (and I assume most of the other kids) don't even notice she is trans or have any idea what that means.

FOJN · 11/04/2022 11:33

I don't think covering gender identity itself is particularly concerning and there's nothing else you've written which suggests they engage in gender ideology indoctrination, it looks like their aiming for something balanced. They've withdrawn from Stonewall which is a good sign.

desiringonlychild2022 · 11/04/2022 11:38

I don't have a kid yet but I know DH and I would definitely want a school in future that didn't cover all the gender stuff. Are faith schools generally a safe bet?

FemaleAndLearning · 11/04/2022 11:38

Safe Schools Alliance as posted above and Transgender Trend will be helpful.
I started with their policies, Equality and Bullying. Both had used gender rather than sex. Our primary asked for consultation on RSE so I took part. Our school chose not 'going above and beyond' what the DfE ask of them. If your school is going above and beyond ask them why and what extra resources they are spending on this and why. Good luck, remember you are giving over your child to them for a third of their day you have every right to know what they are going to be taught.

CrapColdCoffee · 11/04/2022 11:44

Sorry I'm not sure if I'm overthinking it, lurking on feminism boards perhaps skewed my perception of how prevalent gender ideology is in primary schools. I just want to make sure my DD knows it's not dress that makes you male or female.

I was very GNC as a young girl and had horrible time, I think that if I was growing up today I'd end up believing in this crap.
I guess I'm ok if they talk about gender identity as much as they talk about different religions, as long as they don't preach it iykwim.

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page