The Times view on the collapse of the Safe to Be Me conference: Undone by Intolerance

[ResisterRex]

Thought posters might like to read this:

The Times view on the collapse of the Safe to Be Me conference: Undone by Intolerance

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/82ad7194-b75b-11ec-8c29-375fe0cc1f19?shareToken=da406f7f223dd14ed6e3425a3ed650b0

I think that’s a good summary. It seems to me stonewall et al threatened to boycott the conference with the arrogant assumption that would bring Government to heal presumably as this tactic has worked many times previously. On this occasion it backfired and government stuck to their guns ( rightly imo). I agree a full investigation into the finances and who was paid what and when is important. Stonewall’s power has drained away somewhat at this whole debacle.

Has the government ever had a Safe to be FEmale type conference?

Stonewall appears to have forgotten that there are still battles to win and hills to climb for LGB rights overseas. I suspect that area of policy is rather neglected and they didn’t have anything prepared on the issue anyway.

As for their being a lack of leadership, all the main parties have failed on this. I don’t blame the government for sitting quietly at the back after they shelved GRA reform to see how things panned out. Labour and the others have been abysmal.

Good point donut . Now that would be something. Sometimes I have a moment of realisation about how far the patriarchy reaches into my own thought processes. That hadn't occurred to me, thanks
I love this board.

I kind of knew this

Homosexuality is criminalised in 69 countries, including more than 30 in the Commonwealth. In 11 countries gay people risk the death penalty.

but it's shocking to see it written like that. the need for 'old' stonewall has not gone away. there was absolutely no need to move onto infringing women's rights to stay relevant. but the misogynists had money i guess

They just had Veronica Ivy on. Sounds agitated.

Great article, but every story that mentions 'conversion therapy for trans people' should make it clearer what that actually means.

So Stonewall threatened to chuck their toys out the pram again and have discovered it's not as effective as it used to be.

There’s no way Stonewall in its current form would want to be part of an event that talks about global LGB rights. The “I’m so very oppressed” narrative falls apart a bit if you start giving a platform to people who [have] experience[d] actual oppression.

TBH I sometimes wonder what people who’ve sought/are seeking asylum in the UK on basis of their sexual orientation make of TRAs claims words are “literal violence” & that trying to stop them from doing whatever they want constitutes oppression

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