Conspiracy theories

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One thing I do not get about this whole thing, and by whole thing I mean the erosion of the feminist movement or women's rights. Is the fact that people on the side of the gc movement have literally witnessed a conspiracy to subvert those rights I was talking about, in real time.

Why are the same people so incredulous and dismissive to people who have views counter to the mainstream about other issues? Can they not extrapolate? Can they not think that the mainstream is lying and obfuscating about other issues too? This is one thing I really do not understand.

I am talking generally, from my own experience. I know crazy people exist, who believe all kinds of nonsense. I'm talking about people who fully understand this issue, nuances and all and "conspiracy theorists" who actually do research, are sensible, intelligent people who happen to contradict the mainstream.

GC/pro-women has basic science and other sources of evidence as well as the social contract on its side. The anti-woman movement that is seeking to erase women as a sex class demands that science, evidence, and the social contract should be set aside in order to fulfil the desires of a Sacred Caste.

As you indicate, a substantial number of conspiracy theories would tend to fall into the latter category as above.

I'm talking about people who fully understand this issue, nuances and all and "conspiracy theorists" who actually do research, are sensible, intelligent people who happen to contradict the mainstream.

This category is plausibly hen's teeth rare for any given understanding of "do research". Barry Marshall ran counter to the mainstream view of peptic ulcers. He did the research and his results could not be denied. In 20 years he went from a non-mainstream idea to shifting medical practice and a Nobel.

I think that it probably is the case that having witnessed this, those who have taken notice are more likely than average to consider the possibility of other "conspiracies" may have something behind them.

But it's not going to be everyone, some people don't extrapolate in that way. And then, some conspiracy theories are kind of just bonkers.

But I would say, for example, that women I know who have twigged what is going on with gender are also more likely to take seriously other possibilities of deliberate manipulation in the media or on university campuses. They are more likely to think, "why does The Guardian keep running these stories about veganism?" They seem more likely now to look at charitable organizations and lobby groups or activists more skeptically, even when they generally agree with their cause.

But they probably don't think, "gee, maybe the moon landing really was a hoax!"

I agree that most conspiracy stuff is ridiculous, but I really don't get the people who have literally witnessed the mainstream media manipulation on this point and dismiss any other manipulation as a conspiracy.

I saw something about Hailey from corrie, being influenced by a certain group. If this insidious inclusion and shaping of the public consciousness has been going on for so long. What the fuck else has this hidden influence been doing? It's fairly unlikely that this would be limited to transgenderism.

I don't know, everyone seems to think the mainstream media is solid gold on other issues. The reason more sensible conspiracy theorists are not heard is because they have all been banned from the main channels.

Im not saying David Icke is credible but his whole forum which had existed for many years was nuked towards the beginning of covid. There was a great thread involving Saville which originated far before his unveiling which was hundreds of pages long. All gone, the new forum they created was shit. I very much doubt this was a coincidence.

I think some people just don't extrapolate.

I see the same things with gender ideology in terms of it's relation to identity more generally. I see people who can make a very scathing argument about how gender politics is working, but don't see the very same thing on another issue, and will be prepared to call people out as bigots or whatever in those areas in the same way they decry in gender. Maybe they will argue that schools shouldn't usurp parents in terms of teaching about gender, but then as soon as it's an issue they agree with the school on, well, that's different.