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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I’ve had an idea

35 replies

Nellodee · 08/04/2022 17:09

On another thread, someone was saying that people who don’t agree with women this board get shouted down. I absolutely don’t think that happens, but I can see that if you are a sole voice of disagreement, you may feel under a barrage of opposing opinions and not have time to respond to each one, and I can see it could become frustrating.

So, what if we had a thread where we invited opposing opinions, but nominated a single regular to field responses? They could pass the baton onto another if they were getting tired, going out, etc, but the main thing is, only one person would be allowed to respond at once from the gender critical side. I think we have plenty of people who could respond to multiple “non-echoers”.

If anyone thinks that’s a good idea, we could use this thread to nominate people who might be willing to take in such a role.

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PrelateChuckles · 08/04/2022 19:16

Suggestion: keep a note of the questions that are ignored or dodged/reframed to be a different question.

DomesticatedZombie · 08/04/2022 22:01

That's a great idea, OP.

Herding cats comes to mind. Grin

The trouble is that a thread like that is likely to be adversely self-selecting; in that sensible and reasonable posters will respect the premise.

But why not go for it and see what happens?

DomesticatedZombie · 08/04/2022 22:02
  • It would be great to encourage posters with alternate views or questions to feel comfortable bringing those here to discuss. (So long as they are in good faith, which is sadly quite rare.)
ChopinBoard · 08/04/2022 22:22

@Babdoc

mamabr, there is no surgery that can give a man “female reproductive parts”. No man, however cosmetically altered, ends up with a uterus or ovaries. My surgical colleagues are good, but they’re not that good! And in my opinion no men should ever be in women’s single sex spaces, or sports, however they identify or whatever surgery they have undergone. They retain male physical advantage and male sex and violence offending rates. Over half of transgender males in prison are there for sexual offences. The answer is for men to be more welcoming of transwomen in male spaces. We divide according to sex, not gender identity, and women have separate spaces for good reasons of safety, dignity, privacy and fairness.
I don't mean to disrupt but just have to say that the notion of "giving a man female parts" first made me snort with laughter, and then think of Ed Gein
IstayedForTheFeminism · 08/04/2022 22:42

I think it's a brilliant idea.

DomesticatedZombie · 08/04/2022 22:49

@Nellodee

We could call it “The Echoeless Chamber - Mumsnet invites you to not be shouted down”.
Anechoic.
FemaleAndLearning · 08/04/2022 23:01

I think you have to start with definitions. What is a debate? Because it seems many people on social media don't understand it.

Innocenta · 09/04/2022 05:31

I'd love this. I often disagree a bit, as I'm have a slightly different take but am not a full on supporter of gender ideology either, and I never feel like it's possible to have a satisfying discussion. I usually get an onslaught of posters somewhat aggressively asking me to define GC basics, even if I clarify that I do understand the core points of both positions... and then I feel put off and leave the thread. I think it would be excellent to have a thread where 'middling' people (as well as TRAs) could engage in discussion in a more slow paced way.

Innocenta · 09/04/2022 05:32

Sorry, 'as in'.

Mysterioso · 09/04/2022 05:53

Give it a brand name like AmA. Maybe BaF? Back and Forth?
I want to call it "barf" sessions but I can't figure out what the R would stand for.
Anyway, the point is to make it a recognisable format so it's easier for pile-ons to be avoided.

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