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Guardian gunning for JKR again

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Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 08/04/2022 09:03

www.theguardian.com/film/2022/apr/08/fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-cancel-them-how-the-wizarding-world-lost-its-magic

The phone line between Stonewall & the guardian must be red hot at the moment. After yesterdays patronising “dining across the divide”
‘And so gentle reader I met a TW and they were nice and I learned the error of my ways and was so grateful to be educated. Thank you Guardian, give TW all the things’ piece yesterday plus Zoe Williams “be kind you bigots I’ve never needed a single sex space myself” article, today we have “jkr has upset the kids and now no one cares about Harry Potter anymore”

Can’t wait to see what they come up with tomorrow!

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LittleWhingingWoman · 08/04/2022 10:38

Does the writer of the article identify as a penis?

AryaStarkWolf · 08/04/2022 10:39

Wonder if she would consider buying the rights to Father Ted - The Musical, too.

Ohhh please please please!

timeisnotaline · 08/04/2022 10:42

We have the Harry Potter books in 2 languages and just because of Jkr I might have to also buy the set in whatever language they take up in high school.

TitsInAbsentia · 08/04/2022 10:49

@Queenoftheashes

Funny, they usually have comments on for articles about movies. Literally this guy knows if he had them on he’d get 600 people pointing out that JKR continues to be successful, popular, books selling etc etc. What a berk.
I scrolled to see if I could comment....pah....

I'll definitely be going to see it!

Queenoftheashes · 08/04/2022 10:51

I find Eddie Redmayne unbearable tbh but I may have to see this on general principal. I do want to know about Dumbledore’s secrets.

Rainbowshit · 08/04/2022 10:51

Have booked our tickets for Sunday. Can't wait to see it!!

BunnyBerries · 08/04/2022 10:53

Haha, what a mess of a contradictory, spiteful, article.

It appears

"Interest in the original property shows no sign of waning"

Though apparently

"She has tarnished her own brand as far as huge numbers of them are concerned”

But

"They’re able to say: ‘These belong to us, not her’ and remove her from the picture, which is, I think, a healthy attitude"

Maybe not because

"Now we don’t use Rowling’s name or work in the classroom."

Or perhaps

“Extrapolating a threadbare story from what was originally a slim encyclopaedia of outlandish creatures had resulted in something very close to a two-hour game of Pokémon Go.”

Oh the slander…. I’ve caught the first 151 Pokémon and almost reached level 40!
I’m evidently not the intended audience at all for this article Grin

Abhannmor · 08/04/2022 11:04

@RoyalCorgi

They really are spiteful, aren't they?

If you read Andrew Billen's piece in the Times today (which is far from perfect), it's clear that the controversy hasn't hit JKR's sales at all. Her books are still selling extremely well and brought in £12.7m last year.

The Times's film reviewer gives the new Fantastic Beasts film an excellent review and says it's much better than the earlier two.

So this piece is born out of pure nastiness - the same nastiness that saw them drop JKR from their birthdays list. She's worth a million of them.

I said Rosie Duffield was worth 8000 of Owen Jones and he blocked me! JK is certainly worth 1m Guardian hacks. With honorable exceptions.
IvyTwines · 08/04/2022 11:08

Radio 4's review didn't mention Rowling at all, I don't think. Radio 5's did, to slag her off, though as one of the reviewers hadn't actually seen the film she was employed to review, I doubt she's the sort to have bothered to read what the author actually said before sounding off about her.

RoyalCorgi · 08/04/2022 11:17

There's something quite comical about the way they try and separate the author from her work. In the past few years, we've had the Cormoran Strike series of books - and three tv adaptations. We've also had the massively successful play Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, which opened in the West End in 2016, and in Broadway in 2018, and is still running in both places. We've had The Christmas Pig, which was a best-seller, and also The Ickabog (ditto). We've had the Fantastic Beasts film franchise, which continues to draw in audiences. All of these several years after the last Harry Potter book was published.

It must infuriate them that she keeps writing, keeps publishing, and the money keeps on rolling in. They're like midges on an elephant's back - and she just swishes them away.

lockhillie · 08/04/2022 11:18

It's "cool" to be seen hating on JKR at the moment, but I'm sure all the people who are doing so will be visiting the cinema this week and the ticket receipts will reflect that!

PronounssheRa · 08/04/2022 11:18

@IvyTwines

Sarah Ditum's just commented, "So according to the Guardian here: "wife-beating" and choking women in public are "small beer" compared to JK Rowling writing accurately about the law, biology and her own victimisation....It's often very obvious in these pieces that women speaking is more egregious than male violence, but nice for someone to say it directly. And for the record, despite this piece's thesis: the Potter franchise is still making mad bank. Twitter is not the world"
Women's words, especially if they are about women's rights are a far greater crime than men's violence against women.

To be honest I thought that was the standard guardian editorial position now.

Justme56 · 08/04/2022 11:20

On a more positive note my DS school (big academy with 1500 pupils) recently held a Harry Potter evening. Lots of students went and it was a great night. The London centric champagne socialists can witter on as much as they like - no body is listening!

MoltenLasagne · 08/04/2022 11:26

I did notice on the adverts for the latest film it directly names JK Rowling (something like JK Rowling invites you blah blah).

I wondered whether that was due to backlash from audiences or JK herself telling them that "the stories belong to the fans not the author" is not something that would really hold up in court.

Awkwardy · 08/04/2022 11:31

@DomesticatedZombie

It would be amusing if JK bought the Guardian.

I don't mean like bought a copy. I mean, bought the company.

Jo, if you're one of us, top tip right here

OJs face at the news!

YetAnotherSpartacus · 08/04/2022 11:38

One of the actors causing disgrace is non-binary apparently.

SidewaysOtter · 08/04/2022 11:46

PPs are right about the spite that the Guardian is heaping down these days, but that's cognitive dissonance for you. The more it becomes apparent that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes, the louder the panicked howls have to become that HE ABSOLUTELY IS, OF COURSE HE IS because the alternative is accepting they were catastrophically wrong.

Nancydrawn · 08/04/2022 11:52

I think one can separate one's feelings about JKR from the fact that the Fantastic Beasts franchise is really, really bad.

Igneococcus · 08/04/2022 12:26

“jkr has upset the kids and now no one cares about Harry Potter anymore”

I was in Edinburgh this week and there were several Harry Potter tours around while I was there, large groups too with people of all ages, larger than the offer holder campus tours which were happening that day. Some people clearly still care about HP.

88sausagefactory88 · 08/04/2022 12:33

@LittleWhingingWoman

Does the writer of the article identify as a penis?
Love this
Palmfrond · 08/04/2022 12:52

the author makes excellent points, because obviously, and as everybody knows, children know and really give a flying fuck about gender controversies. Not.

Peregrina · 08/04/2022 12:53

I wrote to the Guardian yesterday to complain about the Zoe William's article, especially the last paragraph. I am really angry, women like JKRowling have worked bloody hard for their successes.

Whereas these transwomen in sport find that they are not good enough to win as men, so they will have a go as women.

Peregrina · 08/04/2022 12:55

I also told them that I noted they hadn't the guts to open up the comments. Personally, I am not a particular fan of Harry Potter although I did enjoy the first book.

lanadelgrey · 08/04/2022 13:05

As I often say, it is worth writing in. A sensible editor would take note and pass the comments on to the writer

TheRealBoswell · 08/04/2022 13:05

TRAs like to believe that by not supporting them, you’re anti-trans.

A quick google shows that Ryan Gilbey is either gay or queer, some of whom believe they are trans-allies. He clearly is a TRA as evidenced by his raving review. And as such, many if not all TRAs seem very keen on hating JKR because from their warped perspective it undermines what they believe.

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