Detransitioner article in the Telegraph

[Fenlandia]

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/04/06/allowed-transition-18-without-question-regretted/

(Sorry, they don't do share tokens like the Times but there are options for getting past the paywall if you need to)

This must be the piece GenderGp were spitting their dummy out about. Allie got hormones from them aged 18 on the basis of one half-hour phone consultation, with no exploration of her sexual trauma or family background. It's enraging how vulnerable young people are being sucked into this madness.

Allie now largely accepts her body and is looking forward in life. If you happen to see this Allie, all the best to you and I'm sorry for what you've been through.

Also in the DT today - www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2022/04/07/balancing-act-transgender-rights/

"For the past few years, a small number of courageous people – mostly women – have sought to challenge the increasingly strident demands of radical activists who refuse to acknowledge that these are not simple questions. For their pains, these women have faced social cancellation and the destruction of their careers."

From the first-mentioned article:
In March 2018, I contacted Gender GP, an online health and wellbeing clinic for transgender people and was given a 30-minute phone consultation costing £300; I never had a face-to-face consultation. In June, I was prescribed hormones. There was no exploration of my sexual trauma, and no mention of my upbringing and how that could have affected things.

The consultation included a question about fertility risks and whether I wanted children. Because of what I’d read on social media, I knew I needed to say ‘no’ in order to be prescribed hormones. They didn’t tell me all the potential side effects, such as heart problems and loss of bone density, or the extent to which it could impact fertility.

This is very poor quality care. It also points out the problems of young people being primed online to give the correct answers, and perhaps, of at least some of them really not having the capacity to understand the issues. She mentions that she was asked a question about fertility risks but then also mentions that she wasn't told about them.

It could be that the provider on the other side was unclear, but it could also be the case that she wasn't mature enough to consent.

@Fenlandia

Also in the DT today - www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2022/04/07/balancing-act-transgender-rights/

"For the past few years, a small number of courageous people – mostly women – have sought to challenge the increasingly strident demands of radical activists who refuse to acknowledge that these are not simple questions. For their pains, these women have faced social cancellation and the destruction of their careers."

And being erased by their social circles! That is fun.

@nepeta

From the first-mentioned article: In March 2018, I contacted Gender GP, an online health and wellbeing clinic for transgender people and was given a 30-minute phone consultation costing £300; I never had a face-to-face consultation. In June, I was prescribed hormones. There was no exploration of my sexual trauma, and no mention of my upbringing and how that could have affected things.

The consultation included a question about fertility risks and whether I wanted children. Because of what I’d read on social media, I knew I needed to say ‘no’ in order to be prescribed hormones. They didn’t tell me all the potential side effects, such as heart problems and loss of bone density, or the extent to which it could impact fertility.

This is very poor quality care. It also points out the problems of young people being primed online to give the correct answers, and perhaps, of at least some of them really not having the capacity to understand the issues. She mentions that she was asked a question about fertility risks but then also mentions that she wasn't told about them.

It could be that the provider on the other side was unclear, but it could also be the case that she wasn't mature enough to consent.

I mean, it's GenderGP... www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4502351-Dr-Michael-Webberley

This fills me with fury. It’s negligent, exploitative, and impacts the most vulnerable people.

So pleased to see detransitioners being given a voice. A big thank you to Allie for speaking out about her experience.

Wishing you all the best Allie, thank you for speaking up so bravely. I’m so sorry this happened to you.

I think 18 is way too young to ask people if they want to lose their future health and fertility. Lots of posts on here about how the brain doesn’t mature until 24 -and that’s with natural puberty. With chemically suppressed puberty we don’t know what that means for brain maturity. I think the people who prescribe that don’t really know.

And there are some questions that nobody can weigh up to answer as a young single adult, compared to if you asked them again as a mature adult thinking about parenthood in future. If you’d have asked me at 18 I would have confidently said I would happily never want kids. Now I feel completely differently. That’s just one of the reasons why invasive physical ‘transition’ is so risky. With anything in life, it’s very normal and understandable for people to change their minds.

It's been enlightening over the past week to see posters on the DT forum educating themselves. It may have started with Sport, but the ripples are growing. I suspect a few MN posters have been sowing seeds on this forum (and on the Times) and it looks like they are sprouting! I can't access comments on The Guardian anymore...or perhaps they are just disabling them.