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I hope this is not true - med student in US deliberately misses vein after patient remarks on pronoun badge

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ButlerianJihad · 31/03/2022 11:01

www.foxnews.com/us/north-carolina-wake-medical-student-missed-vein-patient-stuck-twice-gender-pronoun-pin

Unsure if this is how to share links on MN.

From the text: "A fourth-year medical student at Wake Forest University in North Carolina bragged on Twitter about purposely missing a vein while drawing blood because a patient asked about her pronoun pin.

"I had a patient I was doing a blood draw on see my pronoun pin and loudly laugh to the staff 'She/Her? Well of course it is! What other pronouns even are there? It?'" K. Del, or Kychelle Del Rosario, a fourth-year medical student at Wake Forest School of Medicine, tweeted, according to The Post Millennial.

"I missed his vein so he had to get stuck twice," she said. Del Rosario has since deleted her account."

Whether this incident is true or not, and I hope it isn't, it does highlight a concern of the use of pronoun badges in health care. Many people are not familiar with these debates and the strength of feeling involved and so while many who know the consequences are successfully silenced, those naive to the ramifications may make comments which may be perceived as insensitive.

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MoonOnASpoon · 31/03/2022 14:22

This isn't just political though, IMO it's a result of the massive lie that is widely accepted by gender ideologues and "allies", that those who don't agree with the ideology are evil bigots who hate trans people and want them to die. It's ridiculous and nothing to do with GC arguments at all - which is why a number of trans people also make the same arguments - but I think people really do believe it. Once you've monstered and dehumanised someone enough for not agreeing with you, it probably dos seem trivial to physically hurt them, after all that's minor compared with the murderous violence you've attributed to them.

Just one of the many ways in which this whole thing is so dangerous. I am actually scared that as the tide turns, there will be a hardcore rump of true believers who really think violence is justified.

BraveBananaBadge · 31/03/2022 15:22

@Rightsraptor

Interesting that Dr Obuobi said she had had several patients commenting negatively on her pronoun badge over the past few weeks. Something shifting?

Also it's hardly unknown any hcp to miss a vein or have a problem with venepuncture - certainly done it myself, some veins are just tricky little buggers . What is wrong is the med student's bragging & turning into a political action.

Quite, raptor. Are they really being "berated", or just met with healthy scepticism they can't handle because it's a nonsense? The badges seem to be proving more of a foolish distraction - and something to cause division and silly unprofessional behaviour - than creating an inclusive 'safe space', no?
Waitwhat23 · 31/03/2022 15:27

And fairly pointless. Badges which actually indicate something useful - a speaker of BSL or someone who has undertaken dementia awareness training would actually increase inclusivity. Pronouns to be used in the absence of the HCP aren't understandably the general public's primary concern when accessing health care.

Babdoc · 31/03/2022 15:34

A pronoun badge is potentially a useful marker for a health care professional who apparently doesn’t understand o level biology, and/or is a virtue signalling and attention seeking narcissist. Patients may wish to choose a different doctor.

FemaleAndLearning · 31/03/2022 15:40

What happened to first do no harm?
What amazes me is these people think everyone knows all about gender identity ideology and why they believe pronouns are soooo important. The poor bloke probably just thought what the hell is that all about.
The self declared via woman calling it out as transphobia is all a bit strange.

I hope this is not true - med student in US deliberately misses vein after patient remarks on pronoun badge
AlsoNotAGirl · 31/03/2022 16:00

@tabbycatstripy

Nobody who takes pleasure in hurting a patient should be anywhere near medicine.
Agreed

Regardless of whether it was accidental or deliberate the boasting on twitter is highly unprofessional

IamAporcupine · 31/03/2022 16:50

@Babdoc

A pronoun badge is potentially a useful marker for a health care professional who apparently doesn’t understand o level biology, and/or is a virtue signalling and attention seeking narcissist. Patients may wish to choose a different doctor.
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