Angela says we're 'Debasing'

[DomesticatedZombie]

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/genitalia-questions-debase-trans-debate-says-angela-rayner-s893nr9f5

'Labour’s deputy leader has said it is not acceptable to ask a woman whether she has a penis, but insisted there were circumstances under which a man could be asked whether he was pregnant.'

Just for you, Ange.

PENIS.

Maybe we'll wake up and discover it's a Chris Morris sketch that got out of hand.

MP's have been fooled before ...

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-mp-tricked-into-condemning-a-fake-drug-called-cake-has-been-put-in-charge-of-scrutinising-drugs-policy-a6704671.html

I feel quite old now because I vividly remember watching this on Brass Eye.

I found those songs really hard to follow. Loud music with quiet singer/ screeching voices. What the hell were they about?

Perhaps we should ask about testicles instead of penises. Watching them talk literal bollocks would have a certain poetry....and be bloody hilarious.

They were about being AMAZING Pink.

The shouting! The melodies! The bass! A glorious tumbling riot of emotion and sound.

Maybe like sour sweets?

Well she is right in way. The vast majority of Transwomen don't have genital reconstruction surgery, so really we don't have to ask if they have a penis because we already know the answer.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/starmer-won-t-talk-about-sex-and-gender-that-s-a-problem

Everytime

Pixies!! Massive fan of Kim Deal. And didn't the men push her out of the band?

It's not OK to ask a woman if she has a penis but it's OK to ask a man if he has a womb?

@Earlydancing

It's not OK to ask a woman if she has a penis but it's OK to ask a man if he has a womb?

Very good point.

Did they? Bummer. I love the Breeders, too.

The word penis or penises appears 50 times in the Spectator article, I'm loving James Kirkrups style.

I'm so glad this thread has been an excuse for loads of Pixies songs! My favourite band of all time 😍

Also

I still listen to Cannonball almost on a weekly basis.

@AlisonDonut

I still listen to Cannonball almost on a weekly basis.

It's in my top 5 ever. Love it. I love the whole album really. And Belly/throwing muses/Kristin Hersh.

I'm grunge through and through. Never grown out of it

I'm grunge through and through. Never grown out of it

Afghan Whigs, Buffalo Tom, Pixies, Breeders, P J Harvey, Manics. All on my gardening playlist. Louder the better.

I recently moved house and now have a huge garden, with a large shed up the top with nobody around so I've bought a CD player with turntable, and I'm going through all my old Vinyl and CDs and nobody can hear me and my very loud music. It is fantastic.

@AlisonDonut

I'm grunge through and through. Never grown out of it

Afghan Whigs, Buffalo Tom, Pixies, Breeders, P J Harvey, Manics. All on my gardening playlist. Louder the better.

I recently moved house and now have a huge garden, with a large shed up the top with nobody around so I've bought a CD player with turntable, and I'm going through all my old Vinyl and CDs and nobody can hear me and my very loud music. It is fantastic.

😍😍😍