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[Ridcully82]

Just realised something,watching Layla Moran explaining science around Covid measures,and I just realized a really strong thought in my head without conscious connection: how can I believe anything you're saying when you think you can "see souls/gender",and think biology is heresy. The last few years have really poisoned the well. This isn't the same as MPs lying in the past:this is denying fundamental facts.
How can we get past this without a public mea culpa at some point from those doing this?

We can't get past it. They need to go.

@tabbycatstripy

We can't get past it. They need to go.

This is the harm to public understanding and trustworthiness.

The harm to the trust in politicians will flow down the generations if this continues to unchecked. It leads us towards distrust and instability and the sense that people with power operate in a culture of impunity.

There are substantial social, cultural, and political dangers being cemented into place in plain sight.

Not all the politicians. Just the ones who have refused to engage with people's reasonable concerns and now find themselves reciting indefensible rubbish on national TV. They need to be booted out in favour of more sensible people.

I'm starting to wonder how MP's are selected because I assumed there would have to be standards for them to reach, the same as any other job.

@Thelnebriati

I'm starting to wonder how MP's are selected because I assumed there would have to be standards for them to reach, the same as any other job.

Local constituency committees have a lot to answer for in some places…

I think this is the thing that these politicians never take into account.

Once I distrust you on a topic where you deny material reality, I really really cannot trust you on any other. It's not like 'normal' politics, where I can disagree with your interpretations of the facts on the economy, unemployment, education etc. This isn't the interpretation of facts, this is the facts themselves. In particular, this is facts that are on a par with 'water is wet'.

Denying those facts, and behaving as if that is the only way possible - how can I trust you with anything from that point on?