Disney backlash by LGBT employees

[TheBurmundseyIndustrialEstate]

Disney has been very supportive of LGBT rights up to this point but it has decided to back a bill in Florida that would ban LGBT teaching to children in kindergarten.
Most of it’s customers are parents of that age group and they must realise that it is what most of them agree with and want.
There are walkouts planned in Disney Florida by LGBT staff and the corporation is being painted as being anti gay and LGBT.
I can’t think of many large corporations that have publicly stood up against the trans lobby are prepared to endure the backlash.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60842337.amp

perhaps 20 if kept back

That should obviously be 10 YO.

@Hasselhoffsheadband

This is why LGB needs to distance itself from T.

There is a huge difference between teaching young kids that some people have two mummies or some men get married to other men, and teaching young kids that some people are born in the wrong body and that if you don't align with societies expectation of your sex, there is something wrong with you that can be 'corrected' by 'changing sex' with powerful drugs and surgery.

Exactly - the LGB will need to distance itself from the T if it doesn't want the oncoming huge backlash to affect it.

Surely it is in everyone's interests that the topic of sex is covered in classrooms in an age appropriate way.

But sure, you go ahead and ignore the context of how these laws

Context is important, but I am bit suspicious of this type of argument as I have seen it used time and time again against GC people. In the case of JKR, the TRAs went to town saying this looks innocent but it really means...

"Disney corporate president Karey Burke says, "as the mother [of] one transgender child and one pansexual child," she supports having "many, many, many LGBTQIA characters in our stories" and wants a minimum of 50 percent of characters to be LGBTQIA and racial minorities"
twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1508926408332034049

[quote TheBurmundseyIndustrialEstate]Disney has been very supportive of LGBT rights up to this point but it has decided to back a bill in Florida that would ban LGBT teaching to children in kindergarten.
Most of it’s customers are parents of that age group and they must realise that it is what most of them agree with and want.
There are walkouts planned in Disney Florida by LGBT staff and the corporation is being painted as being anti gay and LGBT.
I can’t think of many large corporations that have publicly stood up against the trans lobby are prepared to endure the backlash.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60842337.amp[/quote]
Lol I don’t have any strong opinions for or against it but do find the entire situation hilarious. They pressured this major company to get involved so they did. They just didn’t lean in the direction that they wanted them to.

I know know how to post memes in here but if I could the surprised pikachu face would be perfect for this situation. 😂😂😂

Very much hoping Tambourine Shaker will make another appearance here, I've been waiting to hear more from them.

• I don't really have enough understanding of any of the US political/cultural landscape to comment on the politics - what even is grade 3?

@DomesticatedZombie

- I don't really have enough understanding of any of the US political/cultural landscape to comment on the politics - what even is grade 3?

Grade 3 would be 10-11 year olds.

thanks.

'it bans discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity for children under 10 or when "not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards".'

Sounds reasonable. Is it not just saying discussions should be age appropriate? Of course someone has to decide on those standards.

It's not LGBT staff necessarily. It includes heterosexual ghouls and well intentioned authoritarians who lack the critical thinking to question gender identity ideology.

I need to say something here.

Why is it that "teaching children about different families" has somehow become entirely about LGBTQ+?

In reality, particularly in places like Florida, there will huge numbers of children who are not brought up within a heterosexual nuclear family dynamic.

But that will not be because their parents are gay. It will be because they live in single parent households, extended family situations or their legal parent is a grandparent, an aunt/uncle, or an elder sibling. They may be in foster care or adopted. Even if parents hold legal parentage, many children's actual day-to-day care may be done by extended family members or even neighbours or parents' friends.

What about these children? Why are their different family set-ups not really considered when a society talks about familial representation?

@DomesticatedZombie

- I don't really have enough understanding of any of the US political/cultural landscape to comment on the politics - what even is grade 3?

I’m in the US. Third graders are usually 8 (sometimes 9) years old. 10-11 y.o. would be more like 5th grade.

You must be in a state where kindergarten starts at 4. For myself you didn't start till 5. There's no way an 8yo would be in this grade. Although I think I did over shoot a bit. I think it's 9-10. But I think the important thing is that they are ten year olds.

Karey Burke Disney President's daughter identifies as a boy. Dr. Johanna Olsen-Kennedy is Burke’s daughters doctor

@DaughterofDawn

You must be in a state where kindergarten starts at 4. For myself you didn't start till 5. There's no way an 8yo would be in this grade. Although I think I did over shoot a bit. I think it's 9-10. But I think the important thing is that they are ten year olds.

In Florida, third grade is 8-9 years old.

For those who don't seem to understand why Disney might be involved, the issue is Bob Chapek and Disney's huge potential political power in the state. It's really easy to find this stuff out.

@DaughterofDawn

You must be in a state where kindergarten starts at 4. For myself you didn't start till 5. There's no way an 8yo would be in this grade. Although I think I did over shoot a bit. I think it's 9-10. But I think the important thing is that they are ten year olds.

Kindergarten - 5-6 years old Grade 1 - 6-7 years old Grade 2 - 7-8 years old Grade 3 - 8-9 years old.

Most 3rd graders start the year as 8 year olds, and turn 9 during the school year.

You can basically add 5 to a US grade to get the starting age. Most kids will have a birthday and turn the next age during the school year. So 3rd grade is 8yo and they might turn 9.

The last year of secondary school is grade 12 which is started at age 17 and students might turn 18 during the year, though an unlucky few don’t become legal adults until sometime in the summer after graduation.

thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/600080-disney-pledges-to-help-repeal-floridas-dont-say-gay-bill/

@NecessaryScene

They do not care about women. They are not your friends.

Right? So why are the left so determined to empower them? Why was there no self-regulation here? Why are teachers so determined to teach age-inappropriate stuff that they're inviting people like that to come in and make laws?

A lot of the reason we're against all this gender idiocy is because of the backlash. This is a backlash coming in - and it was always inevitable.

I'm basically saying - you were going to be hit by something to stop it, and as somethings go, this isn't too bad. It might be the least worst option.

If the teachers wanted to respond by drawing up their own guidelines to convince the lawmakers that this wasn't necessary, that would be ideal. Are there any moves in that direction?

And I will just point out that it has not just been the teaching about trans issue that has upset parents. Many are also not happy at the kinds of things schools are telling their kids about the LGB, where they have kids at the primary school level coming home and saying they are demisexual.

Ultimately schools are not going to get away with teaching stuff that is outside what parents are comfortable with, and there are a wide variety of viewpoints on this topic. It's because, just like with gender ideology, teachers and schools increasingly see themselves as activists who are there to teach kids the right way to think so that they won't be stuck with the bad ideas of their parents, that this has happened.

And the rb is that if it is ok for schools to do this with regards to sexuality, they can certainly justify it on all kinds of other social issues like gender ideology. It's just another sex of regressive parents, from their perspective, be they homophobes or transphobes.

There is a bigger picture here about appropriate boundaries for the state that is more significant than teaching about homosexuality or gender.

Good Substack piece:

I Am a Gay Employee at Walt Disney World. Disney Does Not Speak For Me.

@NecessaryScene

Good Substack piece:

I Am a Gay Employee at Walt Disney World. Disney Does Not Speak For Me.

Excellent article, thanks. It reminds me of the conversion therapy bill trojan horse in the UK

“The Parental Rights in Education Act, which major news outlets and homophobic organizations have smeared as a “Don’t Say Gay” bill, isn’t about gay erasure at all.”

"The purposely misleading nickname“Don’t Say Gay” was a Trojan horse. ..... The detractors of the bill used this to lure you in, but they wanted to hide the gender ideology part of the bill, which is what people should really be concerned about. The public was being played, and gay people were being used as pawns."

Are those Disney activist following the Dentons strategy?