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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Stonewall is selling anti-terf training

34 replies

Absurdle · 25/03/2022 13:44

www.conservativesforwomen.org/how-to-tackle-a-terf

It seems a bit like Wile.E. Coyote selling anti Road Runner training, but I guess they'll keep on grifting till their last gasp.

Isn't this discrimination?

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/03/2022 19:05

Is PP on here? As a lurker?

I'd love to take my seditious saggy t shirt out for an airing on Sunday.

And then to the pub.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/03/2022 19:14

@Whatiswrongwithmyknee

The British Library says that it does not ask for the sex of job applicants - only gender identity.

So they are not bothered at all about collecting data which allows them to see whether their recruitment processes are doing what they should to redress at the age-old barriers which women (by which I mean adult human females) face when trying to get work. They are not bothered about being able to have the data which tells them whether men are being paid more than women. And they think their £1500 should be spent on anti-Terf training not anti-misogyny training. The mind boggles.

AND being sued by for mistreating a gay woman?

And they don't want people like me to see their lovely, lovely books and resources?

I try to avoid hyperbole, but, isn't that awfully like Afghanistan? Women not allowed to express themselves, gather, wear what they please, be educated or be gay?

WeeBisom · 25/03/2022 19:18

"You are working at the library and you are told by someone that a member of the public is walking around wearing a t shirt that is offensive to trans people. what do you do?"

Surely Stonewall must have told the attendees that the British Library is a public institution, and so has a duty to safeguard the convention rights under the human rights act. This means that the British Library cannot restrict people's free speech. And as Strasbourg has consistently repeated, article 10 does not just protect speech that is favourably received but also protects the right to shock, offend and disturb. In this situation, an offensive t-shirt is protected speech and so the Library should do nothing to restrict the visitor's speech as per their legal duties.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/03/2022 19:25

the right to shock, offend and disturb

The "right", or the "obligation", @WeeBisom?

Cos, I'm so sick of this shit now that a bit of NVR through the medium of cotton t shirts is quite appealing.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/03/2022 19:45

Is PP on here? As a lurker?

You can email her via her online store email.

Hasselhoffsheadband · 25/03/2022 20:08

1500 quid for a zoom session?!

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/03/2022 21:26

Good point, @Hasselhoffsheadband.

That's public money being spent to a charity which has been shown to have given poor information on all manner of issues.

To teach staff how to deal with uppity women.

MangyInseam · 25/03/2022 21:51

Libraries in general are bastions of identity politics orthodoxy these days, it's really bad and is affecting services and collections, IMO. I work in the library sector, it's stifling, and many of the people are actually clueless that it's even the case. They are completely unable to see it. The few that disagree tend to stay quiet.

ScreamingMeMe · 06/04/2022 12:32

@Absurdle

www.conservativesforwomen.org/how-to-tackle-a-terf

It seems a bit like Wile.E. Coyote selling anti Road Runner training, but I guess they'll keep on grifting till their last gasp.

Isn't this discrimination?

Thank you, I missed this one.

WOW.

We all know which groups of protesters are likely to be more of a problem, of course, and it isn't women wearing tshirts.

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