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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Vagina Museum

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IcakethereforeIam · 23/03/2022 12:08

thecritic.co.uk/a-controversial-opening/

A review of the Vagina Museum. Not to prejudice the thread but these are the people who posted a transwomen twitter thread on IWD....confirming the bias. Sorry if the link doesn't work. I found the article on the Critic website, it's by Laura Dodsworth.

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ScreamingMeMe · 23/03/2022 12:15

Well that sounds about as shit as I was expecting. Can't believe they are still going tbh.

LizzieSiddal · 23/03/2022 12:22

Women’s bodies are highly politicised but the political focus here is trained almost solely on transgender issues and, due to the current temporary exhibition, periods. Why does “queerphobia” merit an information board, but not sexism?

Gosh what a wasted opportunity.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/03/2022 12:26

Why does “queerphobia” merit an information board, but not sexism?

Confused
Whatsnewpussyhat · 23/03/2022 12:39

Surprised they didn't rename is the Front Hole museum.
More pandering to male feelings by denying female reality

VelvetChairGirl · 23/03/2022 13:10

was the visit free for the review because no woman should give them a penny they are gynaphobic

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/03/2022 13:12

That's a wonderful blistering piece and the VM thoroughly deserve it for their obsession with queer / trans issues and failure to focus on women - the sole owners of vaginas.

There is a sense that the museum is psychologically stunted and yet to grow past its own political puberty

Somanysocks · 23/03/2022 13:28

Is that blood glittery? I feel cheated.

Artichokeleaves · 23/03/2022 14:30

It was an exercise in TQ ownership and forcible redefining of female biology from the start.

Hence the missing info re birth, period pain, puberty, 'menopause is lovely and like being a child again', gynecological issues and anything else relevant to female anatomy. Vaginas as resources repurposed to be more useful for political agendas.

I noticed the polite comment at the end that 'nearly all people with vaginas are women' - all of them are female. There really is no point trying to hide this fact, it's something we all have to face up to. Its hurling women's rights back into the dark ages to once again turn their biology into dirty words that nice people wouldn't say in public.

FrancescaContini · 23/03/2022 14:38

The museum’s insistence on eliminating the words “girls”, “women” and “female” and instead using people - most offensively, to explain FGM as “people” who have had their genitalia mutilated Angry - is totally absurd given its focus. And, according to the writer, the museum has nothing to offer on the subject of birth Confused

What a wasted opportunity. I won’t be visiting.

nepeta · 23/03/2022 15:08

I looked at the website of the museum a couple of years ago. It gave the impression that vaginas are weird floating things in the air, apparently randomly attaching themselves to some bodies and not to other bodies, and nobody knows the reason for that.

It was someone from that website who on Twitter proposed the term 'vulva people', to denote individuals of the female sex.

I got the impression that people working there had not thought this through on any deeper level, and wanted to be very virtuous and kind, even if the cost of that was to flush most vulva people down the toilet.

This is the impression I get from lots of young feminists who tend to believe that all necessary sex-based rights have already been won.

As an aside, isn't it interesting how two trends are perceptible at the same time and pushed by the same groups: One is to erase all names of the female sex, the other is to encourage individuals of that sex to use their bodies for sex work, surrogacy and acting in porn?

IcakethereforeIam · 23/03/2022 15:40

Do they do this kind of thing at the penis museum? I only know of the one in Iceland (by the frozen sausages).

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FunnyTalks · 23/03/2022 16:02

As an aside, isn't it interesting how two trends are perceptible at the same time and pushed by the same groups: One is to erase all names of the female sex, the other is to encourage individuals of that sex to use their bodies for sex work, surrogacy and acting in porn?

This.

Erasing the terms women and girls only makes it harder to fight for our rights. In fact, it obscures the fact we even have rights to the younger generation.

I hope all the woke cookies were worth it for the creators. I remember the website stating that the term "female reproductive system" was offensive. This whole museum is a cynical exercise in cornering a very niche market first and helping make sure younger women and girls don't get an opportunity understand feminism.

DameHelena · 23/03/2022 16:03

@Artichokeleaves

It was an exercise in TQ ownership and forcible redefining of female biology from the start.

Hence the missing info re birth, period pain, puberty, 'menopause is lovely and like being a child again', gynecological issues and anything else relevant to female anatomy. Vaginas as resources repurposed to be more useful for political agendas.

I noticed the polite comment at the end that 'nearly all people with vaginas are women' - all of them are female. There really is no point trying to hide this fact, it's something we all have to face up to. Its hurling women's rights back into the dark ages to once again turn their biology into dirty words that nice people wouldn't say in public.

I don't know what to make of the 'we are nearly all women' comment. The reviewer is otherwise obviously fully aware of what a woman is/what a vagina is/who has one. Does she mean some people with vaginas are girls?
ControversialOpening · 23/03/2022 17:08

The title of that review: "Controversial Opening" is so good I've had to change my user name.

IcakethereforeIam · 23/03/2022 17:35

ControvertialOpening
It didn't register with me at first, but it's brilliant, in so many ways.

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KittenKong · 23/03/2022 18:36

I hear they went to Bethnal Green. Now it’s been a long time since I lived there - back when the schools and libraries were scrabbling for books and there was a lot of Somali and Bengali families… and the BNP would be out on the weekends fighting with the SWP on Brick Lane.

Can’t really see it taking off..

FrancescaContini · 23/03/2022 18:39

@KittenKong

I hear they went to Bethnal Green. Now it’s been a long time since I lived there - back when the schools and libraries were scrabbling for books and there was a lot of Somali and Bengali families… and the BNP would be out on the weekends fighting with the SWP on Brick Lane.

Can’t really see it taking off..

It’s all baristas and smashed avo these days
KittenKong · 23/03/2022 22:03

Just down the road for us is an area like that - it’s all surface. On a sunny Saturday afternoon you get the oligarchs and models sitting having coffee outside chichi coffee shops - but local community sites still report muggings, attacks, car thefts, attempted breaking…

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 23/03/2022 23:45

isn't it interesting how two trends are perceptible at the same time and pushed by the same groups: One is to erase all names of the female sex, the other is to encourage individuals of that sex to use their bodies for sex work, surrogacy and acting in porn?

It is indeed. And neither one in the interests of vagina-people.

MangyInseam · 24/03/2022 00:56

In a weird way this makes sense to me. There are a whole group of people, much larger than one might think, who believe the statement that sex (as in the act and also sexed bodies) exists for the purpose of reproduction is offensive.

They see it, instead, as essentially a kind of leisure activity, albeit one that is 100% necessary for mental and physical health (unless you are ace,) and identity characteristic.

LittleWhingingWoman · 24/03/2022 01:04

Time for it to change its name to something more suitable.

I vote for "Cock Shop"

LittleWhingingWoman · 24/03/2022 01:07

@FunnyTalks

As an aside, isn't it interesting how two trends are perceptible at the same time and pushed by the same groups: One is to erase all names of the female sex, the other is to encourage individuals of that sex to use their bodies for sex work, surrogacy and acting in porn?

This.

Erasing the terms women and girls only makes it harder to fight for our rights. In fact, it obscures the fact we even have rights to the younger generation.

I hope all the woke cookies were worth it for the creators. I remember the website stating that the term "female reproductive system" was offensive. This whole museum is a cynical exercise in cornering a very niche market first and helping make sure younger women and girls don't get an opportunity understand feminism.

"This is the impression I get from lots of young feminists who tend to believe that all necessary sex-based rights have already been won."

I need to make a thread on this separate point if that is ok!

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