JKR on detransitioners

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She's rt the observer article and then followed it up with a series of tweets linking to detransitioned women who've been writing very eloquently about their experiences.

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twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1505659837878833173?s=21

And then several other tweets after this

👏 thank you Jo. I hope people are reading - especially teachers and professionals who work with children.

JKR is doing an amazing job speaking out for these young women knowing that she will face a huge backlash.

A child cannot provide informed consent on life altering medical procedures - especially in a world full of misinformation.

I am so glad she's doing this, retweeting and highlighting the actual lived experience of these young women. Laura Dodsworth commented on Twitter that her piece on several detransitioning women 'is not a feature they [The Guardian] would publish' so it went out instead in the paywalled Sunday Times, a paper less likely to be read by the young readership that really needs to see it.

Used to be such a loyal guardian reader. How can they justify not presenting balanced news from both sides of the debate. It doesn't have to be opinion articles - news reporting is supposed to be impartial!

I’m disgusted that a 16 year old child was given a mastectomy for no real reason.

Good on JKR for continuing to raise these issues despite haters trying every thing to shut her down

JKR calmly goes from strength to strength. She knows she has an army of women behind her.

I've just read Helena's long substack piece. lacroicsz.substack.com/p/by-any-other-name?r=18ll6h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&s=r What on earth has happened to make HCPs and school staff so keen to endorse this phenomenon?

To add fuel to the fire, I went to my school guidance counselor and told her I was very depressed (true) because my parents wouldn’t accept me as trans (not so true). She completely affirmed my perception and told me how sorry she was that my parents weren’t more supportive. She looked online with me at the local children’s hospital gender clinic and said she would call to see how long their waiting list was. We also came up with a budget plan for how I would pay for testosterone using an informed consent clinic if I waited until I turned eighteen. In the meantime, she said I should talk to the school psychologist to help me deal with my family being so transphobic. I asked my mom if I could stop seeing the therapist I had been seeing occasionally and switch to the school psychologist. My mom, having no idea that the school was affirming me and helping me put together plans to transition behind her back, agreed.

The psychologist was also very affirming, and again told me how sad it was that my parents weren’t supportive and that I was a real and valid boy. After years of self-harm, depression, and struggling with an eating disorder in silence, it felt nice to have all these adults suddenly take such an interest in my “mental health”. It was just further proof to me that being trans was my ticket to happiness, anybody who urged caution only wanted to hurt me and hold me back. The psychologist brought up the idea of a family session to work things out between me and my mom, and once I felt assured that she would take my side in the matter, I agreed. I hoped coming face to face with a psychologist would finally convince my mom to take the fact that I was transgender seriously. In our session, the therapist and I all but ganged up on my mom, telling her that I needed to transition to be happy, and that trans youth are at a high risk of suicide if they are not given “access” to hormones and surgeries. Predictably, my mom did not respond well and we both left the session feeling bitter.

Helena was well under 18 at this point. Not doing well at school, by her own account, but judging by the quality of her writing she is extremely bright - why didn't anybody ask her what was wrong, why her grades were slipping?

The later section on her visit to Planned Parenthood to get testosterone for the first time is jawdropping. She had turned 18 a few weeks earlier. Read the bit about what 'informed consent' actually means. She provides photos of the forms filled in at the time. The nurse asked her how much T she wanted to be prescribed!

I joined the Detrans Awareness webinar last week. I was shocked that a couple 9f the women were just given a vial of testosterone and told how much to inject but they confessed they took extra as they wanted to speed up the process to be a man. No regulation, given on trust.

There is also an article in the Times Scotland about detransitioning and possible future lawsuits:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/43d3cc56-a8a2-11ec-8da7-c2b9b8c9eee5?shareToken=304b361213b3b47dfe3edd18bd390602

[quote Igneococcus]There is also an article in the Times Scotland about detransitioning and possible future lawsuits:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/43d3cc56-a8a2-11ec-8da7-c2b9b8c9eee5?shareToken=304b361213b3b47dfe3edd18bd390602[/quote]
Sadly the only word some people will listen to is 'lawsuit'. And that includes, it seems, many in the NHS.

Still, they should be quite confident they can defend sanctioning mastectomies for teenage girls, puberty blockers for teens and so on, given all the robust evidence that these treatments are based on.

Oh, hold on ...

God, those tweets are heartbreaking.

JKR just keeps on going. She's bloody amazing.

JKR is such a valuable voice.

Women telling the truth about women!!

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

I've just read Helena's long substack piece. lacroicsz.substack.com/p/by-any-other-name?r=18ll6h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&s=r What on earth has happened to make HCPs and school staff so keen to endorse this phenomenon?

To add fuel to the fire, I went to my school guidance counselor and told her I was very depressed (true) because my parents wouldn’t accept me as trans (not so true). She completely affirmed my perception and told me how sorry she was that my parents weren’t more supportive. She looked online with me at the local children’s hospital gender clinic and said she would call to see how long their waiting list was. We also came up with a budget plan for how I would pay for testosterone using an informed consent clinic if I waited until I turned eighteen. In the meantime, she said I should talk to the school psychologist to help me deal with my family being so transphobic. I asked my mom if I could stop seeing the therapist I had been seeing occasionally and switch to the school psychologist. My mom, having no idea that the school was affirming me and helping me put together plans to transition behind her back, agreed.

The psychologist was also very affirming, and again told me how sad it was that my parents weren’t supportive and that I was a real and valid boy. After years of self-harm, depression, and struggling with an eating disorder in silence, it felt nice to have all these adults suddenly take such an interest in my “mental health”. It was just further proof to me that being trans was my ticket to happiness, anybody who urged caution only wanted to hurt me and hold me back. The psychologist brought up the idea of a family session to work things out between me and my mom, and once I felt assured that she would take my side in the matter, I agreed. I hoped coming face to face with a psychologist would finally convince my mom to take the fact that I was transgender seriously. In our session, the therapist and I all but ganged up on my mom, telling her that I needed to transition to be happy, and that trans youth are at a high risk of suicide if they are not given “access” to hormones and surgeries. Predictably, my mom did not respond well and we both left the session feeling bitter.

Helena was well under 18 at this point. Not doing well at school, by her own account, but judging by the quality of her writing she is extremely bright - why didn't anybody ask her what was wrong, why her grades were slipping?

The later section on her visit to Planned Parenthood to get testosterone for the first time is jawdropping. She had turned 18 a few weeks earlier. Read the bit about what 'informed consent' actually means. She provides photos of the forms filled in at the time. The nurse asked her how much T she wanted to be prescribed!

This long substack piece by Helena is such an insightful read. It delves into the aspects that all come in to play that beguile a girl into believing that being a boy/ man would be an attractive prospect. From what she writes there’s like an orchestra of different musical instruments that come together to create a symphony. A sort of Pied Piper’s tune, as it were. Ranging from the types of people drawn to these internet communities, to underlying trauma, to the attraction of shaping a body into a type of boy that you’re actually attracted to. Her writing is superb. Helena seems a little happier now, and I hope so. All power to JKR for sharing Helena’s words so widely.

Thank God for JKR.

This popped up in my inbox from Transgender Trend today - a thoughtful article about the consequences of socially transitioning teenagers and the psychological harm it is doing to so many of them. It also details the fear of parents in the face of all the threats that their children will harm themselves if their wishes to transition are not immediately granted:

www.transgendertrend.com/teenager-says-theyre-transgender/

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She's amazing.

Heartbreaking stories, honestly don't know what to say.

Wonder what name JKR is going under to log in to Maya's tribunal

I've just read Helena's article. Beguile is right. It's so eye opening to see the whole arc of how girls are sucked in.

[quote MrsOvertonsWindow]This popped up in my inbox from Transgender Trend today - a thoughtful article about the consequences of socially transitioning teenagers and the psychological harm it is doing to so many of them. It also details the fear of parents in the face of all the threats that their children will harm themselves if their wishes to transition are not immediately granted:

www.transgendertrend.com/teenager-says-theyre-transgender/[/quote]
That's very good. Chimes in well with Kathleen Stock's article too (see other new thread on FWR tonight).

I've been very struck by the utter nonsense we hear sometimes on the news from Russians and their supporters about the war in Ukraine. They say what they want us to believe even though they know there is no evidence for it and there is lots of evidence that what they're denying is actually true. The media has no trouble telling us that.

I wish they'd be equally sceptical about other outlandish statements.

Helena gives a great talk at the Genspect Detrans webinar, so does Sinead, so do all of them. I was particularly moved by the boys contributions

Watching this video is so absolutely heartbreaking in the failure of health care professionals to protect these young people from permanent harm. I’m not sure who the one speaker is but it rung so true when they said that they were only ever lauded and applauded as being trans and the only abuse received was when they started to detransition.

I see it with my DC’s friends (and really worry about contagion effect) that being trans makes them feel special. They desperately want to feel this and the online community love bombs them for their bravery in coming out as trans. And then of course, this narrative is being increasingly reinforced more widely in our political and educational and health care spheres.

[quote Solidarityovercharity]Helena gives a great talk at the Genspect Detrans webinar, so does Sinead, so do all of them. I was particularly moved by the boys contributions [/quote]

This is excellent, I'm going to slowly work my way through it.