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Anyone seen this thread? Is it really that surprising women want safe spaces?

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WellThatsMeScrewed · 20/03/2022 21:40

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4509382-What-s-the-closest-escape-you-ve-ever-had-from-a-dangerous-situation

Read this thread and weep. Most of the women I know have similar experiences.

It absolutely enrages me that our instincts to protect ourselves, as a result of experiences, is being belittled by men who have no idea.

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ResisterRex · 20/03/2022 21:44

I was just reading that! So many awful ones but the estate agent story Shock

I think I'd be hard pressed to find a woman who's never been in a situation she didn't feel scared in, and like it could've ended up much much worse.

WellThatsMeScrewed · 20/03/2022 21:51

It’s made me think of those deeply buried memories of the ‘near misses’ I had in my teens and 20’s. The shame of thinking I was stupid for letting myself get into those situations in the first place - because clearly it was my fault. Uggghhh.

I’m so fortunate to know many good men but it’s very hard not to think men are bastards.

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WellThatsMeScrewed · 20/03/2022 21:52

Though I know similar horrible things happen to boys/men too.

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AgathaMystery · 20/03/2022 23:00

@WellThatsMeScrewed

Though I know similar horrible things happen to boys/men too.
Really?

I’m not trying to be goady. But do you really believe that?

I know my husbands biggest near miss. He was jumped by a bigger lad in the loos at school in year 11. It’s not even worth saying out loud.

I can’t even type mine. I bet loads of other women can’t either.

WellThatsMeScrewed · 20/03/2022 23:15

@AgathaMystery you’re right! Don’t know why I made that comment? Conditioned.

Yep, just asked my DH and he said when his mate got punched by someone in a pub. They left and went to another pub.

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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 20/03/2022 23:19

I can’t even type mine. I bet loads of other women can’t either.

I couldn't begin to.

Similarly, I was present for my DH's lifetime biggest miss. The way it turned out, he was completely uninjured but I wasn't as all of the impacts were on my side of the vehicle.

Redshoeblueshoe · 20/03/2022 23:24

I have just read that thread, it's depressing.

AgathaMystery · 20/03/2022 23:28

[quote WellThatsMeScrewed]@AgathaMystery you’re right! Don’t know why I made that comment? Conditioned.

Yep, just asked my DH and he said when his mate got punched by someone in a pub. They left and went to another pub.[/quote]
You’re right. We are conditioned!!

Monitaurus · 21/03/2022 00:08

What astonishes me is that women still think they need to be with men. Every girl and woman has enough horrible dangerous experiences by the time she is twenty to be warned off. And yet how many of us are told not to hate men? Or that NAMALT? Well there are certainly enough to cause us a high level of anxiety...and we cannot tell who the “bad apples” are and who they will infect next.

Cheekymaw · 21/03/2022 00:10

Awful . Says it all really . I have my own experiences but don't want to type them.

Rainbowshit · 21/03/2022 00:14

Yeah I have plenty to add to that thread. Still make me shudder thinking about it.

Coyoacan · 21/03/2022 02:08

Though I know similar horrible things happen to boys/men too

Along the lines of the fact that these things are not at all common for men, I remember one of my students telling us about an encounter he had with a man who invited him back to his flat, etc. etc. All of us women were shocked at how naïve he was every step of the way. But obviously he had not been through our normal female experiences.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/03/2022 09:06

I totally agree. I got off lightly in comparison. I find it even more infuriating when women join in. As @Monitaurus says we’ve all had more than enough horrible dangerous experiences by the age of 20.

Circumferences · 21/03/2022 16:41

@WellThatsMeScrewed

Though I know similar horrible things happen to boys/men too.
This is true though.

The most likely cohort of people to be murdered by men is other men.

Male homicide victims occur nearly twice as much as female victims in the UK.
The vast majority of female homicide victims are murdered by their partner or ex partner, but male victims are most likely to be murdered by a male friend or other acquaintance.

Not trying to say "what about the menz", because the problem is still male violence of course. Hence the need for women to be safe. Just that men do on fact suffer the brunt of it (male violence) more.

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