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Dr Jessica Taylor New Book

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Seiheiki · 10/03/2022 12:40

Hi,

Is anyone else going to the Birmingham book launch of Sexy But Psycho on Sunday night?

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Twitterwhooooo · 15/03/2022 08:52

I didn't claim 'superior knowledge' - I said that I know more that Dr Jessica Taylor about the mental health field.

Which I do. The gaps in her knowledge are really evident in her writings and Twitter posts. As I said earlier in the thread, fair enough a couple of years out of her PhD.

On the other hand, I'm 100% sure that Jess knows more about the sexual violence field than me as that's the area she works in.

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Twitterwhooooo · 15/03/2022 08:54

'Expert' is such an unhelpful term in many ways.

If someone was prescribing me drugs or providing me with therapy, I'd much rather they had expertise in psychiatric drugs or therapeutic training respectively regardless of their expertise in lived experience of mental health problems.

Dobedodo · 15/03/2022 08:57

when we say lived experience, we we talking about working on “front line” services or experiencing trauma personally? Because I don’t think the latter shows anything except a potential motivation.

Twitterwhooooo · 15/03/2022 13:14

Lived experience usually means having personally lived through and, sometimes, having been a carer for someone with a mental health problem.

That's how I'm using it, and I think others too.

HariboMaroon · 15/03/2022 14:18

@Dobedodo

Yes, and I do think it shows a level of expertise, not just a motivation to work within the sector.

We must listen to experts by experience.

Twitterwhooooo · 15/03/2022 14:42

I struggle with the term 'experts by experience' in many ways. Individuals are experts in their own experiences of mental ill-health of course, and their experiences using services, stigma etc

I don't think that makes individuals experts in anyone else's experience or many other areas of the mental health field eg law, pharmacology, counselling, therapy, cbt, crisis services etc etc.

I have certainly never referred to myself as an 'expert' although I do have a degree of 'expertise' in a particular area of mental health (in addition to my personal mental health problem experiences).

Always learning though.

MangyInseam · 15/03/2022 15:31

You really need to be careful about assuming living through something makes a person an "expert" as well. I'm sure we cal all think of people who have significant experience in an area but are not able to have much insight about it. In some cases the problem, whatever it is, can make it particularly difficult for that insight to happen.

All the more so when the problem, like mental health or personality disorders or psychiatric illnesses or even addiction, are themselves things which can distort thinking.

Dobedodo · 15/03/2022 15:35

@HariboMaroon I disagree. I have experienced bad mental health /trauma / mental health services and whilst it would possibly give me some insights into how someone’s feeling it doesn’t make me an expert in anything except my own experience. Why would it?

It might make you more empathetic or relatable to service users but it doesn’t in itself make you more knowledgeable about other peoples issues.

Sasketchewoo · 19/03/2022 21:56

twitter.com/sallyann98745/status/1504877232862466054

I didn't really know whether to post this here - it seemed it might be relevant to this discussion (potentially, anyway). Other people in the comments seem to be hinting it involves Jessica.

AlongCameBetsy · 19/03/2022 22:31

@Sasketchewoo

twitter.com/sallyann98745/status/1504877232862466054

I didn't really know whether to post this here - it seemed it might be relevant to this discussion (potentially, anyway). Other people in the comments seem to be hinting it involves Jessica.

If that's true, it's exactly what Jean Hatchett has warned women about for years now.
BobLep0nge · 20/03/2022 02:14

Other people in the comments seem to be hinting it involves Jessica

All you have to do is increase the brightness on your screen and you can see the name .

Dr Jessica Taylor New Book
NutellaEllaElla · 20/03/2022 07:13

What is that supposed to prove?

BobLep0nge · 20/03/2022 08:25

What is that supposed to prove?

My post or a different one?

NutellaEllaElla · 20/03/2022 10:35

Yours

BobLep0nge · 20/03/2022 10:38

Did you not read the twitter thread and see that screenshot posted? It proves it was Jessica.

greyinganddecaying · 20/03/2022 10:39

That is not good. As a pp said, Jean Hatchet was piled on for warning people about this months ago.

NutellaEllaElla · 20/03/2022 10:41

I must be missing something cos that screen shot doesn't look like a smoking gun

BobLep0nge · 20/03/2022 10:45

I must be missing something cos that screen shot doesn't look like a smoking gun

Yes you are.

Sasketchewoo · 20/03/2022 10:47

Jean Hatchet was warning about Jessica doing this? Or other people generally? I missed that.

Gumbomambo · 20/03/2022 10:59

Jean and a few others were warning about this, it all got fairly nasty.

greyinganddecaying · 20/03/2022 11:12

This is what Jean posted - and Jaimi Shrive replied

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Dr Jessica Taylor New Book
Sasketchewoo · 20/03/2022 11:23

That's sickening. And the book has just become a Sunday Times bestseller.

The woman whose story has been used is distraught and doesn't feel she can tackle Jess given the size (and devotion) of Jess's following. She clearly feels intimidated.

DomesticatedZombie · 20/03/2022 11:27

not good, grey.

DomesticatedZombie · 20/03/2022 11:28

I'm getting a very bad feeling about this book.

Clymene · 20/03/2022 11:30

I wish I could say I were surprised. Sally won't be the only woman