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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police Scotland reviewing their self ID policy

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GibbonsGoatsGibbons · 22/02/2022 00:00

Finally some indication that reality might be bleeding through?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/21/police-scotland-review-policy-allows-rapists-self-identify-women/
(When open Switch to flight mode to keep it readable or it's been archived)

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 22/02/2022 00:19

WHAT?

Will nobody think of the rapists?

Pixiedust1234 · 22/02/2022 00:30

Thank you for the flight tip. Interesting read.

OperationDessertStorm · 22/02/2022 06:56

There is such enormous scope for things to go pear shaped with allowing anyone to self identify into women’s prisons - why would you risk it? You can only guess it was passed by some worker or working group looking to collect a woke cookie from their diversity team 5 years ago - and they’ve now long gone and we now have some red faced newbies frantically trying to work out which way the wind is blowing.

Keep women’s prisons single sex is looking for gardeners currently

highame · 22/02/2022 07:50

This is interesting. I wonder if the FWS win has tipped the balance, although they must have been considering this for some time, that win will have a big influence

334bu · 22/02/2022 08:02

Thank you for the link.

Hoardasurass · 22/02/2022 08:10

🥳 this has helped cheer me up a little after seeing the times article on the age of consent in Scotland

umbel · 22/02/2022 08:44

Good news, and not before time. Just heard this mentioned on Radio 4’s Today programme.

Datun · 22/02/2022 09:13

I hope they don't just decide to base access on the crime committed.

I can see a hierarchy of entry requirements. Rape, no. Sexual assault, possibly. Non violent crime, welcome one and all.

Currently, approval from a panel of experts and a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria is needed to obtain a gender recognition certificate.

The SNP legislation would remove those requirements and lower the time in which someone has to live in their “acquired gender” from two years to three months.

Has anyone, ever addressed what living in an acquired gender means? And how it intersects with a) cross dressers - making cross dressing a legal requirement and how that forces an unconsenting public to participate?

And b) the sexism. What exactly constitutes a man 'living as a woman'?

^Opponents to the plan claim it poses a threat to women’s rights and would create a system open to abuse from male sexual predators, who could exploit it in an attempt to gain access to women-only spaces.*

I'll never understand how so many people working with criminals got sucked into this wholesale denial of how predators operate.

Pluvia · 22/02/2022 09:41

Well done, women of Scotland!

No, Datun, they were too concerned to look as if they were being kind and too nervous of Stonewall to do anything but what they were told.

I live in Wales where Stonewall rules still and, because backing down would be too humiliating, my Labour government just seems to be doubling down. Because admitting to rampant misogyny and homophobia would be too humiliating.

GibbonsGoatsGibbons · 22/02/2022 17:49

vivariumvivariumsvivaria Grin

Datun
I hope they don't just decide to base access on the crime committed.
Urgh yes. Although if you admit TWANW in one respect surely it gets shoogly from there? Especially as charges often change.

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Datun · 22/02/2022 18:18

Shoogly!!! What a fantastic 'never heard before' word!

littlbrowndog · 22/02/2022 18:22

It’s well shoogly datun

paniquer · 22/02/2022 18:31

"Yer coats on a shoogly peg." Translation Is it not time you were leaving Or you've out stayed you're welcome.

GibbonsGoatsGibbons · 22/02/2022 21:37

Grin it's a lovely word to say

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