Good Law Project commissions legal advice on trans children and schools

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goodlawproject.org/news/legal-advice-for-trans-children/

"To help parents and schools, Good Law Project has commissioned some expert legal advice which we hope will help schools in England and Wales understand their responsibilities and help families understand their rights."

I've had a quick scan (IANAL) and it all seems pretty sensible as far as I can see? The Fox Killers editorialising doesn't always seem to say quite the same thing as the full opinion IMO which is interesting (but that may just be me).

• Co-ed schools cant exclude a child because they are trans

• Schools aren't required to treat children as the gender they identify with in all situations

• Single sex schools don't have to admit children who only identify as that sex.

Necessary** this used to happen in some boys' schools - I know a woman who went to Winchester as her father was a housemaster, ditto there was an article in the papers a few years back by a woman who went to Eton. That was decades ago and I know the practice has stopped, certainly at Eton now, daughters of teachers have to go elsewhere for school and at Winchester they now are planning to go co-ed.

The point being that those girls had special status, and their admission didn't change the fact that girls without that status couldn't apply to the school so it remained single sex.

What about:

Can a girls school refuse to admit a boy who identifies as a female?

Shit. I thought I had checked so carefully as well. That was what Q6 was meant to say.

His tactic is not to say that girls' schools HAVE to accept transgirls (boys). It's to say that they CAN do so without losing their legal status. If he can get people to believe that, then he just hands over to the TAs to use abuse and threats until the schools cave in under the pressure.

I can't believe Eton will admit girls. It'll be the same as primogeniture; somehow it's clear who is/isn't female when it comes to money, status and power.

@Swear

His tactic is not to say that girls' schools HAVE to accept transgirls (boys). It's to say that they CAN do so without losing their legal status. If he can get people to believe that, then he just hands over to the TAs to use abuse and threats until the schools cave in under the pressure.

THIS! The majority of changes detrimental to women and girls have happened because organisations are relentlessly threatened and bullied - to the extent that even fundamental safeguarding children principles fall, let alone women's rights to safety and privacy from men.

The selfishness is off the scale. It's purely a desire to remove female facilities from female people.

Why should an entire school of female children and all the female pupils yet to come lose the option of a female only environment and education with all the opportunities it provides, because a male child wants what they want? (Or rather are being facilitated by adults for a political purpose of subordinating females)

There are plenty of mixed sex schools where a child can identify as whatever they want without it affecting the provision of other children.

Now the GLP has announced their wish list and personal interpretation with heavy bias towards TQ+, I will now await FPFW and those wonderful Scots female legal professionals releasing the wish list and personal interpretation centred on female children's interests and needs.

Why is the default example boys being admitted to girls schools?

(Rhetorical question)

@NecessaryScene

A recognised example of this is a single-sex school that admits children of members of staff irrespective of sex.

Where does this happen?

I think this example shows JM's background. Boys'public schools sometimes admit daughter's of staff, e.g. I met a girl who was the only girl at Radley once. No state girls'or boys' school would ever do that though. (I live and teach in an area where most state schools are single sex)

There is another way girls are admitted to boys schools and that is sixth forms - sometimes these will be co-ed when the rest of the school is single sex.

I think this example shows JM's background. Boys'public schools sometimes admit daughter's of staff, e.g. I met a girl who was the only girl at Radley once.

Okay, so that has happened (in the past). But was their single-sex status then ever challenged? (And was that pre-or-post EA2010?)

If there's not been a ruling, the mere fact it's happened doesn't tell you anything about the point in question, which is can a school then legally justify turning away other people of the same sex on the basis of their sex?

I’m going to refer to this as The Shit Cunt Project from now on.

LEAVE (NATAL) WOMEN AND GIRLS ALONE!!!!!

I think this example shows JM's background. Boys'public schools sometimes admit daughter's of staff, e.g. I met a girl who was the only girl at Radley once.

I highly doubt the girl was using the boys' toilets, changing rooms and dormitories alongside them, nor was everyone required to participate a belief that the girl was in fact a boy whether or not they personally perceived or believed them to be so, and under threat of punishment for not colluding.

Also, the reason daughters of staff could be admitted to Eton, Radley, Winchester etc in the past without compromising the rest of the provision for boys was that they lived at home with their parents, the school didn't have to accommodate them. No sharing of dorms, showers, etc.

Boarding schools with mixed sixth forms have girls' boarding houses.