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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sex Matters survey

94 replies

tricervixtops · 13/02/2022 09:20

Apologies if there already a post on this.

Sex Matters has put together a survey about why single sex spaces matter if anyone would like to respond

sex-matters.org/take-action/single-sex-services-survey/

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DoubleTweenQueen · 14/02/2022 11:16

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria I understand the point regarding the tone of the questions, but there is graded responses such that anyone can respond a level of disagreement as far as ‘strongly disagree’ or not applicable, if you don’t think the question has credibility or importance to the respondent.

YouSetTheTone · 14/02/2022 11:27

Done, and shared! My family have all filled it in. My DH, DF and DB appreciate single sex spaces too.. DM filled it in with grim determination as did my (millennial) DSis.

I don’t give a shit if a space is ‘mixed gender’ as long as it is single sex.
Teenaged girls who identify as boys? Fine. (And it is usually teens).
Men who identify as women? No thank you. (And it is usually men not teens…).

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 14/02/2022 11:33

Thanks, yes, that's helpful. They are people I know, there's about 6 of them and the chat is polite and I keep thinking that I can peak them. Baby steps. They are all senior in their roles in organisations which have been stonewalled. They all understand what the EHRC is for, so I assume that their statement is food for thought. I like it when they engage, they ask good questions - and I have good answers.

I said it was because the government have listened to the pro-gender case for 2 years, and we have a time pressure to force them to hear that women's rights matter. That SM is not funded, and that none of the organisations who are trying to engage with the government to defend womens rights have funding - that women crowdfunded for JR and that shows how many women there are donating a tenner here and there to protect our legal rights. There are pockets of people with expertise who are organised and have a clear aim, and a massive, under recognised and growing swell of "WTF?" from women which has quietly grown a grass roots movement. That it's fascinating that politicians have learned nothing from the Scottish referendum and Brexit - silence does not always mean agreement.

I used to be a lib fem. Around about the time it was all fields round here. That was a while ago.

Am so grateful to SM, MBM, FPFW, FWS, TT, SS, bloggers and you tubers, and the ones I missed, who take the time to post links and information. It's really helpful to people like me.

Moneypennysfreedomfund · 14/02/2022 11:44

Done!

BeBraverToday · 14/02/2022 11:50

Done. Thank you.

DoubleTweenQueen · 14/02/2022 15:45

Bumpety bump!

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 14/02/2022 16:29

Bump!

JoyousAsOtters · 14/02/2022 16:45

Done, thank you

Bunshaped · 14/02/2022 16:48

@Linguini

10:51 vivariumvivariumsvivaria

The survey is titled:
Tell us about why single sex services are important to you personally
Not "tell us why you think single sex services are unimportant or should be dismantled".

The organisation is called sex matters not "gender identity matters and sex is irrelevant".

There are plenty of well funded and prominent organisations out there, producing surveys that are biased to centre people with a penis getting whatever they want all of the time.

This organisation is small and likely run by volunteers who shouldn't be expected to sift through a load of gender woo claptrap comments in order to do their quite specific research.

I really like your post, Linguini!

Survey done Wine

CompleteGinasaur · 14/02/2022 17:06

Done. And I too was a bit peeved that there was no box for having left a political party - feel it misrepresents me to presume I'm still a member of the Labour party, and might have been a good piece of quantified ammo to see the number of women who've left over this issue. Not a major complaint, but a slight missed opportunity..?

turbonerd · 14/02/2022 17:21

Bump

samsalmon · 14/02/2022 17:47

Done and shared on FB, that took some nerve but I reckon I’m entitled to my thoughts so if anyone objects and unfriends me, that’s fine.

Jux · 14/02/2022 18:06

Done

nzborn · 14/02/2022 18:40

done

Gumbomambo · 14/02/2022 19:00

Done

DoubleTweenQueen · 15/02/2022 08:27

Morning bump

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 15/02/2022 11:38

@samsalmon

Done and shared on FB, that took some nerve but I reckon I’m entitled to my thoughts so if anyone objects and unfriends me, that’s fine.
Agree, @samsalmon.

Anyone who thinks i don't deserve safety, privacy and dignity can FOTTFSOF.

DoubleTweenQueen · 15/02/2022 11:50

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria 😁

PearPickingPorky · 15/02/2022 12:06

@SunnyDelite

I was a bit disappointed that I couldn't put an opinion on things that I have sympathy with but am not directly involved with, such as sport and faith. I don't DO sport but feel great empathy for women who are having their sports colonised by males.....
Same. I found out very hard to pick 3 situations, and had to pick the ones I'd feel most vulnerable and have least choice in, as an adult female human. So I left out school (because I'm an adult), sport (because I'm no longer a competing athlete), work (because at least I know most of the men there and they need to behave), nightclubs etc (because I have tiny children and no time to go, but I actually think where alcohol is involved, single-sex spaces are VERY necessary for safety).

So picked public loos, hospitals and women's services.

PearPickingPorky · 15/02/2022 12:07

Sadly I don't have high hopes for the EHRC's upcoming guidance, despite recent shifts.

I think it'll still say men can self-ID into women's single-sex facilities.

EdithStourton · 15/02/2022 13:20

Done.

It was a pity that you couldn't comment on politics. I went back a box and wrote in that instead. I spoilt my ballot the last time I had the chance to vote.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/02/2022 13:28

I think it'll still say men can self-ID into women's single-sex facilities.

Yes I think it will keep the case by case nonsense which makes it meaningless.

Graphista · 15/02/2022 19:22

Done

Glad to be able to DO something

One friend has apparently jumped on the woke wagon recently and 2 others are into the whole drag race crap! These are women I previously thought had their wits about them.

As per pps it feels good to be able to do SOMETHING!

As a woman living alone in Scotland sadly I'm not brave enough to risk the vitriol and harassment I'm seeing occur to others by being very vocal about this irl.

Does that make me a coward?

I do raise certain issues with my MP and MSP when I can but I find I have to be so careful how I word things - which also pisses me off!

I sort of feel like.... WOW.
Finally some grow ups have taken charge. There wasn't a "people with a cervix" in there or anything

Yes!

gave Girl Guides a right fucking pasting in my comments.

Me too!

It's fucking disgraceful what's happening with them!

My particular bugbear is how all this crap affects those of us who've experienced sexual assault (which imo and ime is most of us at some point!)

The way things have been going victims of Csa and rape have basically been told "suck it up" which is totally fucking out of order!

There are pockets of people with expertise who are organised and have a clear aim, and a massive, under recognised and growing swell of "WTF?" from women

Not just women thankfully my brother a FEW Men I know and feel safe enough to discuss this with when I've linked to certain incidents and they've seen stuff in the news etc they have very much been "wtf" and also "people saying it's no big deal generally aren't aware of these incidents/issues" which I agree with.

My brother for his sins, is a police officer but I like to think a good un. We don't agree on everything politically but on this he does - mainly because any legislation that makes it difficult to determine if someone did something wrong makes HIS job harder too!

Lordamighty · 15/02/2022 20:06

Thanks I’ve just completed this.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 16/02/2022 00:10

@YouSetTheTone

Done, and shared! My family have all filled it in. My DH, DF and DB appreciate single sex spaces too.. DM filled it in with grim determination as did my (millennial) DSis.

I don’t give a shit if a space is ‘mixed gender’ as long as it is single sex.
Teenaged girls who identify as boys? Fine. (And it is usually teens).
Men who identify as women? No thank you. (And it is usually men not teens…).

Done.

And I love that your whole family are backing this!

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