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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How much money do the pharmaceutical companies make off puberty blockers and hormones and who owns them?

18 replies

ExtraPlinky · 11/02/2022 23:51

thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

What else do we know?

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ExtraPlinky · 11/02/2022 23:57

What are the shares like in these companies investing in trans medicine? Who are the main companies developing it?

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Blessex · 12/02/2022 07:31

I have the same question. Thanks for article link.

Lordamighty · 12/02/2022 08:21

Thanks for that. After just finishing Dopesick, about the OxyContin scandal, the parallels with transgender healthcare is obvious.

ExtraPlinky · 12/02/2022 10:58

We've seen this article before but useful to have it here for people who haven't seen it:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d9e1c404-191c-11ea-a9c5-93ba951187e8?shareToken=bf875a0b6881e159855d3f2929f27926

"A pharmaceutical firm that markets drugs used in gender-identity clinics to delay puberty has given £100,000 to the Liberal Democrats."

How much are the SNP and Greens getting from Ferring or others?

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ExtraPlinky · 12/02/2022 11:06

LibDem funding own thread. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3762937-libdem-funding-own-thread?msgid=92151995#92151995

The older thread about this.

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ExtraPlinky · 12/02/2022 12:10

@Lordamighty

Thanks for that. After just finishing Dopesick, about the OxyContin scandal, the parallels with transgender healthcare is obvious.
We won't understand the full scope of it until the detransitioner court cases hit. But for the SNP for instance - it's not just lobbying - there must be money involved for Sturgeon to be so fanatical about it.
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FrancescaContini · 12/02/2022 14:28

@ExtraPlinky

We've seen this article before but useful to have it here for people who haven't seen it:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d9e1c404-191c-11ea-a9c5-93ba951187e8?shareToken=bf875a0b6881e159855d3f2929f27926

"A pharmaceutical firm that markets drugs used in gender-identity clinics to delay puberty has given £100,000 to the Liberal Democrats."

How much are the SNP and Greens getting from Ferring or others?

This is very disturbing.
DisgustedofManchester · 12/02/2022 14:45

TAnon is alive and well and on Mumsnet.

The majority of PBs go on kids who suffer from early onset puberty. Precocious puberty outnumbers vs trans kids by about 1000% and they are not currently blocked by the NHS from getting PBs.

Lordamighty · 12/02/2022 15:36

@DisgustedofManchester

TAnon is alive and well and on Mumsnet.

The majority of PBs go on kids who suffer from early onset puberty. Precocious puberty outnumbers vs trans kids by about 1000% and they are not currently blocked by the NHS from getting PBs.

Have you got got links to confirm that the majority of puberty blockers go to patients suffering from early onset puberty, given that it’s quite a rare condition?
ExtraPlinky · 12/02/2022 16:33

@DisgustedofManchester

TAnon is alive and well and on Mumsnet.

The majority of PBs go on kids who suffer from early onset puberty. Precocious puberty outnumbers vs trans kids by about 1000% and they are not currently blocked by the NHS from getting PBs.

Ah you are needed on another thread to explain how blackface is different to womanface so if you can hop over to it and enlighten us we would be grateful!
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FrancescaContini · 13/02/2022 14:40

@DisgustedofManchester

TAnon is alive and well and on Mumsnet.

The majority of PBs go on kids who suffer from early onset puberty. Precocious puberty outnumbers vs trans kids by about 1000% and they are not currently blocked by the NHS from getting PBs.

I too would love to see a link to the facts that back up your claim. Precocious puberty is rare, and children who take puberty blockers for what must be a really distressing condition, only do so for a very limited period of time. The medication was never intended for long-term use.
DoubleTweenQueen · 13/02/2022 17:14

I found an article for market value and forecast of sex reassignment surgery :
www.google.com/amp/s/www.gminsights.com/industry-analysis/sex-reassignment-surgery-market/amp

Of note, one if the two cited pitfalls and challenges to the market - rise in incidence of sex change regret.

Apologies for a bit of a derail. Was looking for market value of sex hormones and PBs. Will keep looking!

DoubleTweenQueen · 13/02/2022 17:42

Revenue from testosterone in US has gone from 2.4 billion in 2013, to 3.8 billion in 2018 - US dollars. Healthy growth there - not broken down for treatment groups.

www.statista.com/statistics/320301/predicted-annual-testosterone-drug-revenues-in-the-us/

DoubleTweenQueen · 13/02/2022 18:10

I found a very thorough worldwide market appraisal for gender dysphoria, up to 2030 and broken down by country, but is 200pages and over 5k US dollars, so had to pass. Would be fascinating though.

Can't quite put my finger on current market values - probably not in public domain for the most part as commercially sensitive data
Would be interesting to see the market value to medical insurance companies, and all sectors involved directly or indirectly - psychology, medical suppliers etc.
No doubt it's very big, and growing, business.

NutsOhHazelnuts · 13/02/2022 18:13

There was an interesting thread last year about pharmaceuticals that was enlightening, but I can't find it.

DoubleTweenQueen · 13/02/2022 18:49

Pharmaceutical companies are just one part of the jigsaw. The net is much wider.

Greater sales are driven by market demand.

Ferring Pharmaceuticals state their focus is on reproductive medicine and maternal health, gastroenterology, urology, microbiome and early stage development.

It would not be appropriate to suggest ulterior motives to any company supporting political parties, without evidence. Drugs used to block puberty in gender nedicine are used in fertility treatments such as IVF, which would seem to me to be the more significant market for them.

DoubleTweenQueen · 13/02/2022 19:15

So looking at triptorelin - the drug mentioned in the Times article - that is in the class of GnRHa molecules, which have a number of clinical uses.
Formulations of triptorelin are used in fertility treatments, prostate cancer, I think endometriosis, CPP, and others, which will include use in gender medicine.

IvyTwines · 13/02/2022 19:37

The environmentalist, Anti-capitalist, Anti-globalisation, No Logo, Adbusters Left of 20 years ago would have been all over this, tracing the money through politics, universities, schools, media organisations, medical centres...

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