Nullo cult and livestream castrations

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Seven men arrested in north London over nullo cult ‘that livestreams illegal castrations’

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3c638c8e-8833-11ec-a837-0153f5f4adaf?shareToken=ce76d22d63fc0c652c9219fbb0348e77

Castration and amputation fetishists don't exist though do they?

Wow, people are weird.

But this guy was more affordable than a WPATH surgeon. WPATH guidelines do cover male to eunuch surgeries.

I suppose the next thing will be diy transition on camera.
This isn't going to go away.

@OneEpisode

But this guy was more affordable than a WPATH surgeon. WPATH guidelines do cover male to eunuch surgeries.

Malcolm Clark has a thread with exactly this point in about WPATH and eunuchs:

twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1490632464880001024

This appears to be an eternal human urge. Learnt this fascinating nugget a couple of months ago, which I'll share again.

From Wikipedia:

The First Council of Nicaea was a council of Christian bishops convened in the Bithynian city of Nicaea (now İznik, Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325.

This ecumenical council was the first effort to attain consensus in the church through an assembly representing all Christendom. Hosius of Corduba may have presided over its deliberations.

Its main accomplishments were settlement of the Christological issue of the divine nature of God the Son and his relationship to God the Father, the construction of the first part of the Nicene Creed, mandating uniform observance of the date of Easter, and promulgation of early canon law.

[...]

The Council promulgated twenty new church laws, called canons, (though the exact number is subject to debate), that is, unchanging rules of discipline. The twenty as listed in the Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers are as follows:

1. prohibition of self-castration for clergy
[...]

The fact that it's item 1 tickles me.

More detailed text and commentary here: www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf214.vii.vi.i.html

I think one thing to take away from it is that a lot of human urges are constant. It's only the surface dressing and self-justification that varies. (See also misogyny, self-harm, bullying, creation of out-groups...)

I suppose the need for that astonishing canon law may have been driven by the rule of celibacy being applied to men who weren't in any way asexual.
Grim, anyway.

Wow, people are weird.

This appears to be an eternal human urge
a lot of human urges are constant

Only one type of human people can castrate themselves.

Men are often quite terrifying.

The human species has evolved for men to be extremely violent and where men can't act out their violence on those weaker than themselves they will take their violence out on themselves.

I was about the say that it's not a human urge, it's a male urge.
It's disturbing how sick a lot of men can get. At least they didn't involve any women and children in their violent behaviour this time.

“A man aged in his forties was arrested in relation to this investigation and is currently on bail. Six other suspects were also arrested and released on bail in connection with this matter.”

The other suspects are aged in their thirties, forties, fifties and sixties.

Gawd, when I first saw this I assumed it would be a new youth cult activity. I wonder how long before they are obliged to offer these surgeries on the NHS? Also I wonder how long before N is added to the alphabet soup?

This, in the Daily Mail's coverage of the arrests, was a very striking quote: "A castrated vicar, named Benedict, said: 'It’s nowhere near as weird and difficult to try to become a eunuch now as it was 30 years ago.

'Now, we have doctors who don’t even blink when you say you want to just remove your testicles, or just add a vagina. I never saw this coming'.

www.queerty.com/nullo-man-felt-masculine-better-sex-getting-penis-removed-20181229
An interview from 2018.

What’s the line between body modification, body dysmorphia and fetish?
I don’t really have an answer for you. Body modification just refers to an act or a process. It doesn’t really refer to the underlying drive that causes you to do something. [Often, it’s a] really core foundational identity reason that leads your body not to match your mind, making the act of body modification something beneficial to your mental and psychological health.

The fact that WPATH have added voluntary eunuchs to the trans umbrella shows just how far this movement is going. There's also the fact that some medical people are more than ready to deliver body modifications without any qualms.

These cults do occur throughout history - the cult of Cybele and more recently the Skopsty in Russia. They seemed however to be religious, devotional in origin rather than this kind of self realisation, true identity stuff.

Last year The Guardian published a glowingly positive piece about a teenage gamer who had obtained opposite sex hormones through contacts the teenager had met online, without family or NHS knowledge, and was now fundraising for what the article euphemistically called 'bottom surgery' outside the NHS with its assessments, checks and balances.

@ErrolTheDragon

I suppose the need for that astonishing canon law may have been driven by the rule of celibacy being applied to men who weren't in any way asexual. Grim, anyway.

There was a sort of fad for doing extreme forms of penance and such at the time, for people to prove their devotion. There were still a lot of hermits leaving civilization to live in deserts and that sort of thing.

Anyway, it got out of hand enough that the bishops tried to put a lid on it through that particular rule. Origin was historically thought to have had himself castrated which may not actually be true, but he was similar to the general approach in that he was basically a sort of hermit, didn't partake of meat or alcohol, and that sort of thing.

Again, why is one thing OK and the other not?

Tried something so you don't have to - googled "nullo sissy". My hunch was correct. Eunuch sissy porn is a thing.

Also there's stout biblical support. Sermon on the Mount: "If your right hand offends you, cut it off..." If you have a priesthood where celibacy is required, where lust is considered a sin, and acting on it fornication, and where there's a clear directive in scripture to lop off offending body parts...

@InvisibleDragon

Tried something so you don't have to - googled "nullo sissy". My hunch was correct. Eunuch sissy porn is a thing.

If you can think of it, there's a porn for it.