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ChristinaXYZ · 06/02/2022 20:03

Tavistock Gender Clinic Lead Psychologist Supports Ageplay, Furries

genevievegluck.substack.com/p/tavistock-gender-clinic-lead-psychologist

"Dr. Christina Richards, the Lead Psychologist and Head of Psychology at the heavily criticized London Gender Identity Clinic, is responsible for a number of publications which seek to rebrand extreme fetishes as “further sexualities."

In 2013, Richards, a male who identifies as a woman, co-authored a professional guide on sexuality and gender, in collaboration with Meg John Barker, a senior lecturer in psychology at the Open University. In the writing, Richards places extreme and violent sexual practices on the same spectrum as heterosexuality, homosexuality, and bisexuality.

In the guide Richards introduces ageplay, which involves “an adult identifying as a baby or young child, and is also known as adult baby/diaper lover (ABDL) or infantilism. There may be a sexual aspect… associated with humiliation.”

Richards goes on to describe how adults who engage in ‘ageplay’ accumulate various objects and apparel associated with childhood, including children’s clothing. Often one adult will roleplay as being any age from infancy to teenage years, while another adult participates in a dominant sexual role...

"Richards’ nonchalant attitude towards the ageplay fetish betrays the fact it is sometimes associated with pedophilia. According to Kevin Hsu and J. Michael Bailey, autopedophilia is a phenomenon in which a person becomes aroused at the thought of themselves as a child.

Their 2016 research on the phenomenon published in Psychological Science found that “autopedophilia was common among pedohebephilic participants: 49.1% reported feeling at least mildly sexually aroused when they imagine being a child or having a child’s body.”"

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TurquoiseBaubles · 07/02/2022 02:05

Isn't autopedophilia what David Challenor was into? While Aimee was, allegedly, into ABDL, while being married to someone who is just a plain run of the mill paedophile?

Am I allowed to say that? Or are we still pretending that the aggressive part of the trans movement knows nothing?

SantaClawsServiette · 07/02/2022 03:35

It's not just the safeguarding either.

It's about the kind of judgement and mental model of healthy sexual development people like this are bringing to their work, with people who are struggling with these related problems.

TheGreatATuin · 07/02/2022 06:56

Well, that explains a lot

FrancescaContini · 07/02/2022 08:01

@SantaClawsServiette

It's not just the safeguarding either.

It's about the kind of judgement and mental model of healthy sexual development people like this are bringing to their work, with people who are struggling with these related problems.

Spot on. Particularly if the clients are young, easily influenced and keen to have the attention of an adult who appears to listen to them and appears to show empathy.
YetAnotherSpartacus · 07/02/2022 08:55

I'd like to read the primary sources but I don't have access.

WarriorN · 07/02/2022 09:13

Meg John Barker works closely with Justin Hancock who runs BISH, an RSE org (charity?) for schools.

megjohnandjustin.com/

bishtraining.com/

Justin's twitter is illuminating as to which side of the "debates" he supports.

This guy works with teachers.

WarriorN · 07/02/2022 09:15

Dammit links

bishtraining.com/

And

megjohnandjustin.com/

Clymene · 07/02/2022 11:44

BISH - "proudly supported by....." www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3357713-BISH-proudly-supported-by

Previous thread

Clymene · 07/02/2022 11:45

And this

Normalisation of sexual fetishism www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3456973-Normalisation-of-sexual-fetishism

WarriorN · 07/02/2022 12:21

And some schools lap it up without thinking. Grateful for a lesson plan done for them.

WarriorN · 07/02/2022 12:22

They're all linked. Ffs.

Clymene · 07/02/2022 14:04

@WarriorN

They're all linked. Ffs.
Yep. Rowan was very good at joining the dots. And of course MegJohn is in a relationship with Edward Lord, the non binary mason who was responsible for making the women's pond at Hampstead Heath mixed sex.
DomesticatedZombie · 07/02/2022 14:09

Edward Lord who discarded consultation responses on single sex provision in City of London that didn't meet with his approval.

WarriorN · 07/02/2022 17:40

Jesus fc.

Linguini · 07/02/2022 23:25

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Linguini · 07/02/2022 23:36

^shit I profusely apologize.
It's one in twenty men Not 20% of men 🙄

I'll ask Mumsnet to delete above post where I meant to say:

One in twenty men have a paraphilia (including voyeurism exhibitionism, frotteurism)
Transvestism is in the top five most common paraphilia in men.
Most men with a paraphilia have at least one other.
This explains a lot.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 07/02/2022 23:49

Dunno, Linguini. It's 1:20 men who'll admit it to a researcher.

I've been on reddit Didn't stay long, but I did think, some men are Very Odd Indeed.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 07/02/2022 23:54

By "Some men" what I mean is "a worryingly high number of men".

I don't give a feck about what people get up to in private with consenting adults. If anything I could do with some laundry tips as I expect they know how to get all manner of yuk out egyptian cotton sheets.

What I'm confused about is how a perfectly reasonable quirky kink lands up featuring in my kid's school as part of sex ed.

Fuck right off. They can fumble and figure themselves and others out in the time honoured way, hopefully with as few hang ups and traumas as possible - not because school that wants to know about whether my 15 year old has anal sex.

How did we get here?

(caveat, yes, I know anal sex isn't a fetish - but I'm not convinced that a naive, but lovely,15 year old, who seems to be terrified of dating let alone sex, needs to think about anal at all)

Bosky · 08/02/2022 06:23

Remember this?

British Psych. Society Defends Use of the word "Slut" To Refer to Clients
4W 07 Jan 2022

4w.pub/british-psych-association-defends-use-of-the-word-slut-to-refer-to-women/

Fury as psychologists are encouraged to call their clients 'SLUTS' if requested as part of drive to 'use more inclusive language'
Daily Mail, 10 Jan 2022

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10386157/Fury-psychologists-encouraged-call-clients-SLUTS-requested.html

Dr Christina Richards is Chair of the BPS Group that produced

"Guidelines for psychologists working with gender, sexuality and relationship diversity"
For adults and young people (aged 18 and over)

www.bps.org.uk/sites/www.bps.org.uk/files/Policy/Policy%20-%20Files/Guidelines%20for%20psychologists%20working%20with%20gender%2C%20sexuality%20and%20relationship%20diversity.pdf

This was brought to light by the indefatigable "StillTish" who has produced a whole series of exposes of different organisations, including a set of articles dedicated to shenanigans at the BPS:

stilltish.substack.com/p/british-psychological-society?r=7y1ka&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

One of many Twitter threads on this that is worth a peek!

twitter.com/Gathersources/status/1479498224729837575

"DCoP Annual Conference 2018 Keynote: Dr Christina Richards"

DCoP Chair 2018

Dr. Christina Richards, a passionate speaker and advocate with regards to Gender Identity will be taking to the stage to speak at the conference. She is a lead Consultant Psychologist at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust Adult Gender Identity Service, and works alongside a number of academic and charity organisations, to raise awareness and advocate for gender identity services. We look forward to warmly welcoming Dr Richards as chair-elect and hearing her tell us more about the importance of recognising all aspects of our clients, including gender identity struggles or certainty.

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The Division of Counselling Psychology promotes the interests of Counselling Psychologists across the UK. We support our members by providing training and advice, by holding regular events and by keeping members up to date with the latest divisional news. The Division works closely with other practitioner and academic psychologists.

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ninetynineAu · 08/02/2022 07:10

Sexual "age play" huh? "Playing" as children. Just wondering... Is Tavistock involved in prescribing puberty blocking drugs to minors?

lovelyweathertoday · 08/02/2022 07:30

Just after the section on "age play" Richards goes on to talk about "furry", and people doing age play with furries.

I think the most shocking line was the sneaky forced teaming of "when someone calls their partner babe it's the same thing". Richards goes on to explain how Richards builds rapport with clients who have fetishes that repulse him by recognising that they are only different to his own feelings by a matter of degree, not fundamentally different.

Well, calling people "babe" affectionately is not part of the same thing as a fetish. It just isn't. Richards is being manipulative to make it hard for anyone to challenge fetishes because we're all placed on the same spectrum.

FrancescaContini · 08/02/2022 07:45

@ninetynineAu

Sexual "age play" huh? "Playing" as children. Just wondering... Is Tavistock involved in prescribing puberty blocking drugs to minors?
Quite.

Revolting.

Rheopecticfluid · 08/02/2022 07:48

In addition to his work with the Gender Identity Clinic, Richards serves as the chair of the British Psychological Society

This really is so concerning that someone like this has managed to get into this position. And once in, the problem gets worse and worse.

DomesticatedZombie · 08/02/2022 09:36

One of the trustees of the British Psychological Society, Dr Adam Jowett:

'the government published research conducted by Dr Adam Jowett, chair of the British Psychological Society’s Sexualities Section, on conversion therapy alongside their planned consultation for a legislative ban on the practice. '

www.bps.org.uk/news-and-policy/new-government-conversion-therapy-report-published

DomesticatedZombie · 08/02/2022 09:41

Dr Jowett's Twitter illutrates his political affiliations very clearly:

twitter.com/DrAdamJowett