MAC Birmingham

[Madbadandusuallysad]

The MAC thinks this sort of photo is appropriate for 6 year old kids to walk past on their way to their activities, the photo is part of an LGBT+ Bangladeshi artist's display.

Its really not on is it? My 8 year old was just asked me about it and I'm.stuck for words.

What is it with men and their dicks?

Just an update, the artistic director of the Midlands art centre has replied, apparently there's nothing to see here!

Part man, part monster? It's a dickhead! Talk about pretentious. It's so bad it's funny, but should not be in a public facing space. It's an erect penis. Surely it contravenes the Obscene Publications Act?

I'm really cross. We have used this place for years and it just feels like a big, dismissive "fuck you"! Don't think there is much else I can do apart from withdraw my custom, which won't hurt them as apparently I'm the only person who complained.

Sorry..... is that person saying that dick's are monsters? or something really profound .....ly ridiculous or blindly entrenched in providing sexual content to children.

Well, Helleofabore, I think that was her "artistic" director-esque take on things- that it isn't a penis, just a weird creature.
So pathetic and completely far removed from bloody reality.
What pissed me off was the spiel about supporting marginalised communities, I guess me as an Indian female doesn't count.

it is a penis. They are clearly reading some marketing blurb that sells it as something else. But that is a penis.

I see that she said I can see no safeguarding issues.

Perhaps she should have gone to Specsavers before she went to work this week.

It is indeed part man! A man's lower half, including a huge erection. I don't think adding a human face to the end of the phallus cancels that out.

The head looks like it's half a boy child, half a girl child (one side has a hair bunch like a little girl). So conflating sex and children. Also, does that face have a nose bleed one side and a black eye the other (hard to tell)? Why the peacock? The penis looks like it's giving birth to a baby peacock. I've reassessed. It's not funny, it's fucking creepy.

Info about Obscene Publications:

www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/obscene-publications

Scroll down to Obscene Publications Offences Explained

www.indexoncensorship.org/2016/02/art-law-obscene-publications/

@Helleofabore

it is a penis. They are clearly reading some marketing blurb that sells it as something else. But that is a penis.

And testicles.

@Artichokeleaves You're being disingenuous. This behaviour may not be part of LGB but definitely part of T+ which I might add is why many LGB want to drop the T.

Examples abound of the behaviour you decry, such as was just posted the other day on MN: Brighton’s FETISH March & Trans Pride.

"Gendered Intelligence is crowdfunding to send children on a march alongside adult sexual fettishists, including masked pup play."

Yep, the more I look at it the more fucked up it is. Childrens faces, black eyes, bleeding noses, sliced erect peni birthing peacocks from a vag or an anus. Very weird.

If it looks like a dick, walks like a dick and talks like a dick - and this seems to actually depict a walking, talking dick… it’s ok though as it’s a marginalized dick.

I think Loveday you encapsulated it well.

I though initially that this walking, talking horror of a dick had a broken condom with the split and the ring at the bottom. I think now that it really needs a condom for its' protection and for ours.

Hang on, if that's not a splitting condom, what is that on the penis?

I think it is quite clear what it is.

It is a supposed to be a hermaphrodite with a penis protruding from a vulva unzipped from testicles. It is the genitalia of a man-woman. This idea is reinforced by one set of "masculine" toenails and another set of "feminine" toenails, and also maybe the head being one side masculine and the other side feminine.

This is why there is a peacock in the background because the peacock is male but has decorative "read as feminine" plumage.

I'm not sure what the whole penis throat wound is about, though. A silencing of the voice through tracheotomy? Or a representation of transgender surgery?

I presume the flowers are lotus, suggesting this is a sacred state? An enlightened state?

In short, this whole work is one big piece of genderist agit-prop.

What it definitely isn't is a "part-man, part-monster", and any artistic director that says that is being disingenuous.

Torunette

Oh good grief. I have been looking at it on my phone. I thought I imagined the 'vulva' on the small screen. I also wondered what the bird thing was doing in the 'neck' but really didn't want to allocate any further brain capacity to interpreting it.

The use of children in this image is really the most disturbing thing about it to me.

No. Not acceptable.

Wow, that email is some patronising bullshit. 8,000 people all loved it apart from you did they? Bullshit.

I wonder how many of them simply looked at their shoes rather than admit to finding the linking of children in this painting unpalatable?

What is so wrong about penises?

@Ozanj

What is so wrong about penises?

Erect penis should spend zero time around children

@Ozanj

What is so wrong about penises?

I think there might be something wrong with your reading comprehension.

Apropos of nothing in particular, a thread

thread

1. A thread about grooming.

You’ve probably seen some grooming on lately. Did you recognize it?

The thing about groomers is they are GOOD at it. They are excellent at making you question yourself and your boundaries. This is also known as gaslighting.

1. They will appear to be reasonable. They will use your kindness against you. Groomers care not about you. They don’t play by any rules. They will lie.

They don’t mean the words they say, they say them because of how those words can manipulate you.

1. Everyone thinks they can easily spot groomers. If that were true their grooming would never work.

Again, they are GOOD at it. Excellent often.

1. Right now the grooming is regarding children’s boundaries. Telling adults or children that their privacy boundaries are bigoted is grooming.

If you stopped for one second to consider their arguments, you’ve been groomed. Manipulated.

1. I think it is VERY important that we stop having discussions with groomers to try to get to them to see their positions aren’t fair, safe, whatever.

That’s their GAME. They have just manipulated you.

1. Now you are arguing with them as they ask ridiculous questions. They pull you in further. You start arguing about why safeguarding is important. (It’s obvious and they know why).

They move the goalpost. They ask you why you think all men are scary.

1. You reply with stats but suddenly you are softening. You don’t want anyone to think you mean all men. You have now backed off.

Now they have manipulated you out of protective mode. Now you are discussing stats. Trying to prove something we all know. It’s now a debate. They just won. They got what they wanted. They want people to think there are two sides to prove.

Two sides means compromise. Less protections for children. You’ve just been groomed.

1. Not everyone making a groomer’s argument is a groomer. Some are just people who have been groomed, manipulated. They fell for it. It’s not hard to do. Again, groomers are GOOD at it.

These groomed people think they are being nice. Supporting.

10. Groomers always act the victim. They use your empathy as their weapon against you.

I repeat. They use your empathy as their weapon against you. They have no empathy for you. But you don’t realize this because you’ve assumed they have empathy.

11. You think you are negotiating with someone in good faith. This is how they get you.

The way to deal with groomers is to call it out. See it. Do NOT engage. Do not turn protecting women and children into a debate.

There is nothing to debate. Warn others.

12. Warn others. Do not doubt your instincts. Do not believe their lies.

Learn to spot DARVO. If you are feeling like it’s nuts that someone doesn’t get your point, you’re right. It is nuts. Grooming is happening. You are being manipulated. t.co/EGqhiKiiVh

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