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Daily Mail on children crowdfunding for T surgeries and hormones

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ExtraPlinky · 03/02/2022 16:24

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10453837/How-children-young-13-asking-strangers-online-crowdfund-sex-change-drugs.html?fbclid=IwAR2-wo3S6wgoQZc9fbW8rSOXaVT63kqsJiHzq5t-JpVsI4XA7w418BcbetY

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DomesticatedZombie · 03/02/2022 16:36

'Emily’s powerful medicines — which the NHS has warned can harm young people’s bone and brain development — have not been prescribed by an NHS doctor. They were bought from a private clinic thanks to Emily’s internet crowdfunding campaign.'

Absolutely shocking.

DomesticatedZombie · 03/02/2022 16:37

GenderGP states that the UK’s most popular crowdfunding site, GoFundMe, is ‘happy’ to act as a platform on which children can seek such donations.

In a ‘top tips’ section, it advises how to create an appealing crowdfunder by using bright, colourful images and an eye-catching video

[shocked]

This is obscene.

Goatsaregreat · 03/02/2022 17:15

These poor children. What will their adult lives be like?

Clymene · 03/02/2022 17:17

What kind of parents give their children drugs they've bought on the internet from a doctor who has been struck off by the nhs?

Jesus wept.

TheWeeDonkey · 03/02/2022 17:27

When teenagers are buying this shit off the Internet they don't necessarily need their parents support or approval. All they need is a debit card

IvyTwines · 03/02/2022 17:42

And I suspect a lot of that money comes from other children, keen to be seen as allies. Will the Crowdfunding sites ever be held responsible for allowing children, teenagers, to bypass NHS checks and balances and their own families to go ahead with such drastic surgeries, and for making, I'd imagine, a tidy profit from it?

IvyTwines · 03/02/2022 17:43

I'm glad the Mail is highlighting it.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 03/02/2022 18:38

Adults are doing this. To children.

Why is it not child abuse?
What happened to first do no harm?
Why would anyone perform surgery on a perfectly healthy child's body just because the child claimed to be something they can never be?

DomesticatedZombie · 03/02/2022 19:17

The sites should be sued.

Clymene · 03/02/2022 20:40

@TheWeeDonkey

When teenagers are buying this shit off the Internet they don't necessarily need their parents support or approval. All they need is a debit card
You have to be at least 13 to set up a goFundMe and have your parents permission to set it up if you're under 16.

This kid's mother set it up for them. There are adults enabling this all the way through the process.

FemaleAndLearning · 03/02/2022 22:18

Wow there are a lot of Emilys on go fund me for surgery and hormones. I wonder why that name is so popular?

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 03/02/2022 22:27

tbh, fundraising like this is borrowing the halo of parents who are legitimately fundraising for treatment for children. E.g., Prof David Nutt frequently discusses the plight of well-informed parents who moved abroad to obtain medical cannabis based treatments that are effective for their children who live with treatment-resistant epilepsy. The drugs have transformed their lives for some of them.

Association (BPNA) to recommend NHS prescription of medical cannabis to children with severe treatment-refractory epilepsy, in whom it has shown unprecedented efficacy and allowed many children to stop taking multiple ineffective epilepsy drugs. The first case series of 10 patients has been replicated in a further 10 patients and published in BMJ Paediatrics Open. A bayesian analysis of the treatment efficacy of medical cannabis in these 20 patients predicts that any future patient has over a 90% chance of a good response (L Phillips, personal communication, 2021).

The BPNA’s reason for refusal is that there is “no evidence of efficacy,” despite each of these 20 patients having shown a response, sometimes a 100 times reduction in seizure frequency. In many of these children, the medical cannabis worked despite Epidyolex, the only authorised cannabinoid medicine for epilepsy, having failed. In contrast to the BPNA guidance stating that prescribing medical cannabis is probably not in the best interests of children, the above case study series clearly and consistently shows that, for these children, medical cannabis treatment is in their best interests.

www.drugscience.org.uk/why-doctors-have-a-moral-imperative-to-prescribe-and-support-medical-cannabis-an-essay-by-david-nutt/

www.drugscience.org.uk/medical-cannabis-for-severe-treatment-resistant-epilepsy-in-children-a-case-series-of-10-patients/

But, even now, although they can obtain a prescription from the NHS, the parents have to pay private prices for it which works out at >£1000 per month. These are the sort of parents who end up fundraising for genuine medical treatments.

And this ends up giving cover to dubious drugs bought off the internet for people who are self-treating. And, I gather, this is the advice that is given in support groups in an attempt to coerce GPs into prescribing the drugs on the NHS as the least worst option. (These are available for these purposes so would be supplied on prescription.)

IvyTwines · 04/02/2022 01:09

@FemaleAndLearning

Wow there are a lot of Emilys on go fund me for surgery and hormones. I wonder why that name is so popular?
Has anyone done any research on the sources of the popular names? It feels like it could be a sort of Barium meal to trace the influences/influencers. So many Camerons and Felixes seeking 'top surgery' on there too.
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