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Wes Streeting on Rosie Duffield

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ChristinaXYZ · 02/02/2022 19:38

I did notice on his more balanced interview more recently that he still did not come out to support Rosie Duffield. This rather suggests that his opinion has not changed much if at all from previous years. It is shame because women's rights aside Streeting is someone who could have brought me back to Labour post-Corbyn. But I won't put women's rights aside so this is deeply disappointing:

"Wes Streeting nowadays claims trans rights campaigners shouldn’t try to “shut down” people like JK Rowling for making similar comments, and even calling for more “empathy and understanding” on both sides. Refreshingly even-handed given the animosity these debates usually stir up…

Wes’s position has transitioned since pollster Deborah Mattinson convinced Starmer to order the Shadow Cabinet to avoid trans ideology issues which repel most ordinary voters, women voters in particular. Mumsnet’s chatrooms are on fire and livid with Labour’s mad woke positions on allowing penis owning rapists in women’s prisons and suchlike. In newly emerged footage from the LGBT+ Labour Coalition Launch last February, Streeting was less mollifying than he is now. In the past he’s repeatedly criticised Duffield for her “indefensible” posts, suggested she was “intolerant” of trans people… and even claimed those with “ill-informed” views should be given “less airtime”:

“On trans equality, you know, and I’ve had lots of private conversations with with some colleagues, I mean, there was sort of the higher profile cases like Rosie, where, you know, her social media has just kind of added fuel to the flames, bluntly, and is indefensible.

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It’s our responsibility to step up to the mark not just the responsibility of trans people, but the responsibility of allies to to make sure that where these issues up debates are offered up for debate, and where there are arguments to be won, that we are there making the arguments, it means we need to give less airtime to those spouting ill informed views, whether through the columnists of Sunday newspapers, or the Twitter feeds of MPs, including, sadly, sometimes Labour MPs.”

Wes even suggested that it was ‘reasonable’ to assess the behaviour of people like Duffield as ‘intolerant’: “I understand why people are going, actually why should I be patient? And why should I tolerate people who are intolerant towards me? I think that is actually a really reasonable position, by the way.”"

order-order.com/2022/02/02/wes-streetings-conveniently-transitioned-stance-on-rosie-duffield/

"...why should I tolerate people who are intolerant towards me?" says Streeting, why indeed should any of us?

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AdamRyan · 03/02/2022 22:40

Get politicised yes. 100%. But my contempt for political parties of all shades has descended to that degree during the course of the last 6 years.

If I'm saying that as a poster who is particularly interested and concerned about politics on all subjects, it says a lot.
Hear hear

Jux · 04/02/2022 10:21

"craven little coward..... bandwagon jumping twunt..... fucking liar....."

I think your pondering about which WS might be could equally well be applied to Starmer. I don't trust Labour on women, not at all, and I won't be voting for them. Nor shall I vote Green or LD.

It is a problem.

teawamutu · 04/02/2022 11:16

@Jux

"craven little coward..... bandwagon jumping twunt..... fucking liar....."

I think your pondering about which WS might be could equally well be applied to Starmer. I don't trust Labour on women, not at all, and I won't be voting for them. Nor shall I vote Green or LD.

It is a problem.

Indeed, and likewise.
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