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Thread to keep track of people questioned by police for thought crime

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RoyalCorgi · 29/01/2022 17:24

I thought it would be useful if we recorded everyone who'd been questioned by the police for thinking the wrong things or expressing the wrong opinions in the same place so we had something we could refer back to. I'll start with:

Nicola Murray, questioned by police for saying Brodie's Trust would no longer refer women to Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre.

Jen Swayne, for posting feminist stickers in Newport and owning an academic book by Heather Brunskell-Evans.

A woman (possibly several women) for writing a letter expressing safeguarding concerns to Girlguiding.

Ceri Black for writing a thread about child safeguarding on Twitter.

Marion Millar for tweeting a picture of a suffragette ribbon.

Harry Miller for tweeting a slightly rude poem.

Kate Scottow for being a bit rude towards Steph Hayden on Twitter.

Graham Linehan, also, I think, for being rude to Hayden.

Do add more - I'm sure there are others I've forgotten.

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TheGreatATuin · 29/01/2022 17:40

Good idea. I've been thinking about this a lot today.
I can't believe the police are investigating women for raising safeguarding issues. We need some kind of judicial review/major enquiry.

eleanorwish · 29/01/2022 17:43

Margaret Nelson in Suffolk who had a call from the police about her 'offensive' views.

www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-humanist-stands-by-transgender-tweets-2832902

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RoyalCorgi · 29/01/2022 17:54

Thanks, eleanorwish! I'd completely forgotten about Margaret Nelson.

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OvaHere · 29/01/2022 18:01

Posie/Kellie Jay for various tweets and activism

PaleGreenGhost · 29/01/2022 18:13

When people eventually study this period in history they will compare this with the stark figures for DV and dismal rape prosecutions. The anti woman activists are not going to look remotely "kind".

FrancescaContini · 29/01/2022 18:17

[quote eleanorwish]Margaret Nelson in Suffolk who had a call from the police about her 'offensive' views.

www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-humanist-stands-by-transgender-tweets-2832902[/quote]
Margaret sounds amazing!

Leafstamp · 29/01/2022 18:29

Good idea for a thread.

I presume all of the case studies on the Fair Cop website (some of who already mentioned above) would be relevant

www.faircop.org.uk/

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RoyalCorgi · 29/01/2022 18:52

[quote Leafstamp]Good idea for a thread.

I presume all of the case studies on the Fair Cop website (some of who already mentioned above) would be relevant

www.faircop.org.uk/[/quote]
I hadn't looked at the Fair Cop site before. It's really chilling.

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UncleTonyinahotpinkbrandbeanie · 29/01/2022 19:27

Kate Scottow
Bronwen Dickenson
Caroline Farrow

eleanorwish · 29/01/2022 20:35

I follow Margaret on Twitter.

Innocent drinks were pressured to unfollow her because of her thought crimes!

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 29/01/2022 20:46

Hasn't Spero (Sarah Phillimore and maybe her dog) been questioned/denounced?

NancyDrawed · 29/01/2022 20:46

Kellie-Jay Keen (Posie Parker)

JustWaking · 30/01/2022 07:21

It does seem so unbalanced: police questioning women over perfectly legal opinions, whilst TRAs make threats with impunity.

It's a huge tactic by TRAs to complain to the police, employers, anyone, try to silence dissent. I'm sure this is a naive question, but are we complaining to the police about the TRA tweets and posters which we find offensive and threatening? Are we making the complaints and being ignored? Or are we falling into the trap that it's so obviously offensive that the police should pick it up proactively. Unfortunately, the police seem to be driven by complaints, not actual crime prevention. Should we start making more police complaints ourselves?

EdithStourton · 30/01/2022 07:34

[quote eleanorwish]Margaret Nelson in Suffolk who had a call from the police about her 'offensive' views.

www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-humanist-stands-by-transgender-tweets-2832902[/quote]
That was three years ago - it's appalling how long this has been going on.

And Suffolk Police have the time to hassle someone in Ipswich, while rural policing in East Anglia is in bloody crisis. Farmers have to block field access to keep hare coursers off, fly tipping is a fucking blight (same locations, over and over again, you'd think a trail cam or two might help nail those doing it), you have to wait hours to days for a cop to turn up for a burglary... Never mind the nationally atrocious rape conviction stats.

But wrongthink? Let's chuck the full weight of the law at the merest suggestion!

Great idea for a thread, btw.

Georgeskitchen · 30/01/2022 07:41

Violent crime is rocketing by the minute and police complaining about lack of manpower yet they seem to have infinite man hours to police the Internet for hurty feels
Any political party who stops this nonsense will get my vote!

Rightsraptor · 30/01/2022 08:14

The 2 guide leaders in your original post @RoyalCorgi, were Helen Watts and Katie Alcock. Then we have the recent GG cases of the police visits to the women who raised safeguarding issues re Monica Sulley. Not sure if we have names yet. Nicola Murray, founder of a rape crisis centre in Scotland, was visited by the police in November 2021 about a policy statement she made on Twitter.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/01/2022 10:17

are we complaining to the police about the TRA tweets and posters which we find offensive and threatening? Are we making the complaints and being ignored?

I suspect that there's an asymmetry in maturity and a sense of what's an appropriate use of a public service.

Or it's a hangover from, "When they go low, we go high".

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RoyalCorgi · 30/01/2022 11:10

@Rightsraptor

The 2 guide leaders in your original post *@RoyalCorgi*, were Helen Watts and Katie Alcock. Then we have the recent GG cases of the police visits to the women who raised safeguarding issues re Monica Sulley. Not sure if we have names yet. Nicola Murray, founder of a rape crisis centre in Scotland, was visited by the police in November 2021 about a policy statement she made on Twitter.
I wasn't thinking of Helen and Katie - I don't think they were visited by the police.

But when Nina Killen started a thread on Twitter saying that a friend of hers had been questioned by the police for writing a letter to Girlguiding expressing her concern about the appointment of Monica Sulley, two other women on the same thread said that they also knew someone who had been questioned by the police for writing similar letters.

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ArabellaScott · 30/01/2022 11:13

'Declan Armstrong (19) was found guilty of a hate crime in the UK for asking whether a uniformed police officer was 'a boy or a girl.' The comment made by Armstrong, who has Aspergers and ADHD upset the female to male officer '

BaronMunchausen · 01/02/2022 08:55

@ArabellaScott

'Declan Armstrong (19) was found guilty of a hate crime in the UK for asking whether a uniformed police officer was 'a boy or a girl.' The comment made by Armstrong, who has Aspergers and ADHD upset the female to male officer '
Yes, he received an uplifted sentence under the Public Order Act.

I suspect most people with NCHIs or actual prosecutions are female, not sure if there's any way of finding out.

JellyinaWelly · 01/02/2022 08:57

Stazi all over again

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2022 20:50

Not questioned, but Julia Long was removed from an event by police & security

www.faircop.org.uk/case-studies/dr-julia-long/