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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Magnus Hirschfeld

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NonnyMouse1337 · 25/01/2022 06:59

What an enlightening Twitter thread!! Shock

mobile.twitter.com/hatpinwoman/status/1485667274887512065

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WarriorN · 26/01/2022 13:29

What the hell have I just read?

QueenSue · 26/01/2022 13:36

Quite a few of them get off on pretending to be a "submissive" woman and a rapist at the same time. Like the one who was going to help a woman with her clothes and then assaulted her.

DialSquare · 26/01/2022 13:53

I really wish I'd filmed my face whilst reading that. Disgust doesn't cover it.

SantaClawsServiette · 26/01/2022 14:46

@QueenSue

I just don't get it. I can't relate to it at all. Why would it be sexy to wear your mother's dress, for example? Why do they think it makes them female, to do things women don't do?
I think this is around self-awareness, mostly. There is a lot of literature on this is psychology, why some people seem to have none. If you have no real ability to introspect you also don't have any ability to imagine things from the perspective of another.

Some theorize it relates to some sort of failure to mature past a certain point. Maybe some people have biological conditions that make it difficult, for others maybe trauma.

While it's not directly about intelligence, I do think that it is a factor, more intelligence may be protective. In cases where people seem to be able to halt the progress of or overcome AGP it often seems to me that they become self-aware in part because they are intelligent enough that they eventually have to face up to the patterns and inconsistencies of what they are doing. People who are not very smart are more likely to miss those kinds of clues that might create insight into their own state.

As far as why it might be a turn on at all - the only insight I have is that in my experience, unformed sexuality can be influenced in all kinds of weird directions under the right circumstances. And the archetype of the feminine for heterosexual men starts with the mother and maybe there is some kind of desire to consume that?

I think a lot of the psychological maturation of individuals occurs around recognizing the difference between the self and other but also integrating different elements of our personality, intellect, sexuality, etc in a way that is healthy. Most teens struggle with some elements of this at times before they mature which is why they are so vulnerable to a lot of the gender stuff, so maybe that's a way to try and understand what happens - it's like that attempt to integrate at an early stage has become very messed up.

ScreamingMeMe · 26/01/2022 17:49

I think this deserves a place here too:

"Cis" Coined by "Pedosexual" Physician

4w.pub/cis-coined-by-pedosexual-researcher/amp/

OldCrone · 26/01/2022 22:07

Another thread today.

mobile.twitter.com/hatpinwoman/status/1486374154098159626

ScreamingMeMe · 26/01/2022 22:12

[quote OldCrone]Another thread today.

mobile.twitter.com/hatpinwoman/status/1486374154098159626[/quote]
She's doing the Lord's work here.

ThatsWhenTheCannibalismStarted · 27/01/2022 11:38

Op is it worth amending the title to something more descriptive? I think this is an important read but you don't seem to be getting much participation*

*of course everyone may have read it buy been to Confused to reply!

NonnyMouse1337 · 30/01/2022 09:10

@ThatsWhenTheCannibalismStarted

Op is it worth amending the title to something more descriptive? I think this is an important read but you don't seem to be getting much participation*

*of course everyone may have read it buy been to Confused to reply!

Thanks for the suggestion ThatsWhenTheCannibalismStarted. I'm not quite sure what to rename the title to since accurate descriptions tend to get targeted by trolls who would rather not have these issues discussed.

Anyway, here's a weekend bump! Grin

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ThatsWhenTheCannibalismStarted · 30/01/2022 09:36

Good point, Nonny!

@ScreamingMeMe I like Rubble but still have lots of videos to catch up on. Thanks for sharing this one, I watched it yesterday. Very enlightening

BettyFilous · 30/01/2022 09:37

Thanks for flagging these Twitter threads.

The woman’s case in the first thread is interesting and so, so different from the men also featured. I’m increasingly coming back to the enormous privileged perspective inherent in the retrospective transing of historical women like James Barry. Men have so little understanding how of how women’s sex has curtailed their life opportunities (and continues to globally) that they can’t see that presenting as male historically was about breaking out of a cage, not about gender feels. It was about freedom to study to degree level and beyond, earn an independent living, practice a profession, travel, argue in the public sphere and be heard. None of it was about dressing up or mannerisms, those were the means to an end. It was about living as a fully actualised human with a full range of life opportunities. Perhaps that’s why I find the current focus on lacy under garments, talking in a soft voice, being wolf whistled by builders and ladylike hobbies so bloody enraging. The lives of women and girls in Afghanistan right now: that’s the kind of oppression those early pioneers were breaking free from, even if it had a more genteel facade than the Taliban’s.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 30/01/2022 10:40

presenting as male historically was about breaking out of a cage, not about gender feels

Still is I think. It's very apparent that men who identify as women spend a lot of time talking about the sexual gratification is brings them.

women (or more generally girls) who identify as men or boys tend to say things like 'I was able to walk past a group of men smoking outside a pub without worrying', as I read in an article yesterday

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 30/01/2022 10:41

and yes to thought that the stories on the twitter thread could have been written by transwidows today. heaven help the women in those men's lives

ScreamingMeMe · 10/03/2022 14:44

Interesting thread on twitter from ripx4nutmeg

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1500884439945166858?s=20&t=E08geovaoge7R0ZKiZQJgw

Here's a thread on some of the most influential people whose ideas led to the belief that boys are girls if they say they are. See if you can spot anything that links them.

First up Michel Foucault, a founding father of postmodernism. And a child rapist

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/french-philosopher-michel-foucault-abused-boys-in-tunisia-6t5sj7jvw

Child psychologist John Money invented the term 'gender identity' and carried out sex reassignment surgery on a baby (who later committed suicide). Money used to force children to rehearse sexual acts in front of him, which he would photograph

www.sott.net/article/334768-The-gender-identity-concept-came-from-a-pedophile-and-human-experimenter

Physician Volkmar Sigusch invented the term 'cisgender', to support an idea that we're all 'cis' or 'trans'. He once wrote: "Childish eroticism is not only full of delights, it is also necessary” and claimed there is "nothing wrong" with paedophilia

4w.pub/cis-coined-by-pedosexual-researcher/

Activist 'Monica Helms' invented the trans flag. Monica once wrote a story about a witch whose power is that she looks like a child while seducing adults, and said the pink in the flag represents "young girls" and the blue "young boys"

www.reduxx.org/post/creator-of-trans-pride-flag-was-admitted-crossdressing-fetishist

Dr Frederick Berlin was one of the first people to work at the Johns Hopkins Gender Clinic, said to be the world's first devoted to trans surgeries, and runs it today. A 2011 book states that Berlin refused to report patients he believed were child rapists
avemarialaw-international-law-journal.avemarialaw.edu/Content/iljart

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