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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sex differences in my job

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postietoastie · 22/01/2022 15:46

I work as a postie and every shift I feel the differences between myself and the men.

I have to work in a default male environment where female managers are seen as diversity hires and ageism is rife. Older women are mothers, expected to sort out cards and cakes, and younger women are subjected to inappropriate comments.

They are pushing us to do more and more in the same time. When I'm on my period, more and more frequently I find myself having humiliating discussions about my "performance" with my (usually male) manager, often in front of male colleagues, because I've finished later than everyone else. Surely they know it's a possibility that I've come back later than the men because of extra toilet stops?

We are placed in shared vans with men who are faster. If we need the toilet several times, it's obvious why, and I don't always feel comfortable asking them - they're often much older than I am and it invites uncomfortable questions.

During the summer, again I have more toilet stops because many men wee in bottles in the back of the van (yes, it is disgusting). So again, I am made to feel as if I am slow and avoid using the toilet. I've ended up with kidney infections.

It's a lottery on whether you get easy toilet access on your particular duty. As the duties are allocated by seniority and the older workforce are majority male, men tend to have the best duties.

Royal Mail are moving our working hours ever later which means many parents are going to be quitting over the next decade because they cannot make the school run, possibly reversing the minimal progress that has been made towards gender equality.

I am expected to carry the same bag weights as men, there is no distinction between sexes or ages. 16kg on one shoulder. If we complain, we have to go through an occupational health assessment, as if not being male is a health condition.

I have to keep up with estimated speeds set mainly by men, with no adjustment for age or gender. They don't pair us up by ability, so I often come back to the van to a young man idly sitting on his phone and having a short break, who immediately rushes me on to the next loop, resulting in me getting no rest stops throughout a shift.

Many men suffer with this too as they age, but there is a culture of getting on, the fear of appearing weak. It doesn't benefit anybody but the Royal Mail's bottom line. This way, they retire people with musculoskeletal issues early and hire younger people on worse contracts who lack the institutional memory of better working conditions.

I NEED feminism to be about my sex, because I cannot ignore it, it affects my everyday life. We need to be able to describe the root of these discriminatory practices against women. I cannot identify out of this disadvantage.

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postietoastie · 22/01/2022 15:59

Oops, posted this twice but this is the edited version! New to Mumsnet.

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Thelnebriati · 22/01/2022 16:13

Its just so obvious that the workplace is still designed around the default human.
My postie (male) had surgery before lockdown, and they gave him a wheeled trolley for the mail, he didnt have to make a fuss to get it. There's no good reason why your manager can't just issue you with one if you want it, its not news that carrying a weight on one shoulder can cause problems. It sounds like he's either oblivious or being difficult to manage you out.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 22/01/2022 16:43

are you in a union, @postietoastie?

Luredbyapomegranate · 22/01/2022 17:01

That’s not good at all.

If you aren’t in a union, join one, and take it to the top of HR. I can see there are jobs when everyone may need to perform at the same physical level for safety or efficiency, but a job like this should be adaptable to mothers and older workers. It doesn’t matter if a post run takes a bit longer, and surely the fitter colleague could take more post.

As a PP said, the world still assumes maleness is the default.

Luredbyapomegranate · 22/01/2022 17:01

Yes - and why can’t you have a wheeled trolly?!

ArabellaScott · 22/01/2022 17:22

Friends who worked in the postal service have said similar, OP. A very sexist environment. The assessment may be useful, though, does it mean you may then have adjustments made to better be able to do the job, ie a wheeled trolley, etc? I understand your objection to the default worker being male, but if more women spoke up on this then perhaps it might lead to mroe widespread change/consideration of women's bodies/abilities etc.

ThreeB · 22/01/2022 17:25

Re the weight of bags, ask to see the manual handling risk assessment. By law it needs to have been completed and shown to you. It also should show safe weights for both male and female staff. If it doesn't, then it hasn't been conducted correctly/in line with H&S legislation and guidance

Crustypiepants · 22/01/2022 17:30

The CWU is one of the strongest unions left in the UK , imo. Join it and speak to your rep. Or better still become a rep !

oldwomanwhoruns · 22/01/2022 19:28

It's madness, isn't it - men are on average about twice as strong as women (google tells me averaging 55.8% of male strength).

Equality means we want the vote, equal pay for equal work, and equal consideration for jobs, housing etc. NOT equal, as in, the same.

Good luck OP

OhHolyJesus · 22/01/2022 19:51

Do you think you could send this to Caroline Criado Perez? I also wonder if you're in a union but I realise many unions are completely toothless

It sounds completely crap OP, very important to raise awareness. Thank you for doing that here.

Rightsraptor · 22/01/2022 19:55

Item in today's news about Royal Mail having their wrists slapped about late deliveries - Christmas Post being delivered mid January. Their reason - staff shortages due to Covid. So they already can't do their job and they are about to alienate more staff by changing the hours? What rubbish management. My sympathies, OP.

Crouton19 · 22/01/2022 22:26

@OhHolyJesus

Do you think you could send this to Caroline Criado Perez? I also wonder if you're in a union but I realise many unions are completely toothless

It sounds completely crap OP, very important to raise awareness. Thank you for doing that here.

I second this. CCP has an email newsletter where she highlights this stuff and I imagine it has a wide reach and might make its way to the inbox of someone who could influence things. In the meantime, definitely speak to a union.

carolinecriadoperez.com/

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