''transgender'' man assualts 10yr old - judge doesn't know where to put him as he is 'vulnerable'..

[sacredfeminina]

www.womenarehuman.com/transgender-adult-molested-girl-aged-10-in-bathroom-da-condemned-as-soft-on-crime/

Appears he is using 'transgender' to get lighter sentence and some lawyer is fighting for him to be put in juevey...

Where are all the trans advocates that pop up on other threads? How come they NEVER surface when there are real life examples of the problems of self id?

@PonyPatter44

Prisons in this country have specific wings to hold vulnerable prisoners,whether they are vulnerable through age, sexuality, disability, etc. I am surprised that American prisons don't have similar facilities (note: that was sarcasm - they do).

Thanks, good to know. So nobody's condemning transwomen to abuse by arguing to keep women's prisons single sex then.

Can't have Tubbs who 'identifies as female' and grabbed a 10 year old girl by the throat and sexually assaulted her in a women's toilet misgendered, can we, Yahoo?

Perhaps we should offer such people as Tubbs the option of being made as female as possible?

I think that generally there’s a lot to be said for not prosecuting juveniles as adults - that way you don’t get 14 year olds sentenced to whole-life terms because they were on the periphery of one crime that span out & away from them into their friend (or even someone they don’t know) doing something dreadfully tragically worse.

The point though, surely, is to have that as your general policy; & to examine cases that… don’t sit easily within it? Like, say, this one. Where not only was the offence was committed so close to the cut-off point for entering the adult system but the nature of the offence was so serious, there was a prior offence of a similar nature (& other very serious offences) - & crucially, the defendant is now 26!

It is maddening, as @Bellusaurus said, that only one group are considered “too vulnerable for prison”. Other than the small group of people who are sadly so habituated to incarceration they are happiest in prison, nobody wants to go to prison. People generally feel vulnerable. It is meant to be a punitive measure - & the idea of it is meant to deter people whose moral code isn’t sufficient to accomplish said task from committing criminal acts. Not much chance of that if you quite literally have a Get Out Of Jail Free Card in the shape of claiming to be a trans woman.

Surely effeminate men - whether gay or not - are being [most] actively discriminated against if judges are using “vulnerable” as a shorthand for “at risk of being raped”? There’s Human Rights Watch Report from 2001 about male rape in US prisons that they’ve had plenty of time to read now. There are enough prisoners with disabilities in America that they are effectively enacting mass incarceration of their disabled citizens, with more people with MH conditions in prison than in hospital. Disabled people are desperately vulnerable; & frequently denied (as the report I linked to notes) access to the care they need.

I want prisons to provide safe & suitable housing for all inmates. Which includes wheelchair accessible spaces throughout facilities as far as is possible; & creating wings/floors/units for trans women within men’s prisons.

@Apollo441

Where are all the trans advocates that pop up on other threads? How come they NEVER surface when there are real life examples of the problems of self id?

They almost never surface, but if they do, it will be with some version of

• women assault people too, so what?
• nobody would care if this case didn’t involve a trans element as we’re all just obsessed
• this person isn’t “really” trans
• why are you saying that all trans people are sex offenders!!?!

Anything - ANYTHING!- rather than confront the basic fact that the whole structure of self ID has to rely at its base on criminals and sex offenders not lying to exploit it. Which is…optimistic, at best. Because criminals and sex offenders lie and deceive people all of the time to commit their crimes, which seems obvious to me, but doesn’t apparently to a lot of purported allies.

Excellent.
Predatory child molester needs to be cared for so let's put him in with... Juveniles.

How the hell has this become a thing? How has this become acceptable? How can anyone argue that this is ok?

I don’t understand why my comment got deleted.. oh because I said he?!! This person has a penis! Has xy chromosomes therefore is a man in a dress.

I don’t know why you all do this bullshit! A man in a dress sexually assaulted a 10yr old!

Deleting comments for not using the “correct” pronouns for a filthy pervert doesn’t change anything.

You have a bunch of handmaidens and nosy trans rights activists working to make sure GC women remain silent.

I said what I said!

@MarshmallowSwede

I don’t understand why my comment got deleted.. oh because I said he?!! This person has a penis! Has xy chromosomes therefore is a man in a dress.

I don’t know why you all do this bullshit! A man in a dress sexually assaulted a 10yr old!

Deleting comments for not using the “correct” pronouns for a filthy pervert doesn’t change anything.

You have a bunch of handmaidens and nosy trans rights activists working to make sure GC women remain silent.

I said what I said!

What did you say - without repeating it but giving us the gist? I wouldn't assume it's because of the pronouns as the opening post has the same.

I am so sick of judges and how they always feels sorry for these violent, often sexual, predators. This isn't just a trans thing, but a general thing, however, being trans is now an easy way to gain extra sympathy points.

Poor wee fragile blossom needs a cell all to himself, then.

@MrGHardy

I am so sick of judges and how they always feels sorry for these violent, often sexual, predators. This isn't just a trans thing, but a general thing, however, being trans is now an easy way to gain extra sympathy points.

This hasn't got anything to do with a judge. It is the District Attorney , the prosecutor who has suggested an adult male male prison is inappropriate.

Mr Gascón told the press that the suspect’s ‘transgender’ identity would make him vulnerable in prison

It might well.

Meanwhile girls’ and women’s sex makes them vulnerable to male bodied people. In prisons, in ‘restrooms’ . But no one stands up in court and says that for fear of being called transphobic, breaking guidelines etc.

"This hasn't got anything to do with a judge. It is the District Attorney , the prosecutor who has suggested an adult male male prison is inappropriate."

Same difference. Someone feels sorry for the perpetrator.

Born males need to go to the male estate. They are still male, regardless of their 'gender identity'. I don't see why this child abuser should expect any special privileges. Go to the male estate. Take the consequences for the crime.

@Apollo441

Where are all the trans advocates that pop up on other threads? How come they NEVER surface when there are real life examples of the problems of self id?

I'm tempted to tag a few and ask for their opinion.

Thou possibly I'd get deleted a for being 'not in the spirit'.

Update:

Trans Child Molester Moved to Youth Treatment Center

www.reduxx.info/post/trans-child-molester-moved-to-youth-treatment-center?postId=4dd172fa-2bf2-4cd9-a301-534503bee32f&utm_campaign=ae5f16d5-8932-4ba6-b1ee-20acd772e6cf&utm_source=so&utm_medium=mail&utm_content=4bb3936b-c413-4608-ac23-b649130d20b6&cid=4faf29c8-808d-4e6c-84eb-b7291f417b7d

Ffs what is wrong with people. Actual young girls there. They should have rights too. Like not being jailed with males.

This is beyond belief. He committed the crime when he was (barely) under 18, so should be in a juvenile prison even though he's 26 now? How can anyone possibly think that's acceptable? This is a clear example of nobody using their common sense. The right paperwork isn't in place? Get it done, quickly. Delay until it's done if you have to. Find any possible solution that doesn't involve putting the male child molester in prison with teenage girls.

They’re taking an adult sex offender and placing in a unit with teenage girls? What could possibly go wrong?

I still don't think we have had an answer to the 'no true trans' question.

The facts as we know them are that a 10 year old girl had gone to the women's toilet in a restaurant where she was sexually assaulted by a perpetrator, Hannah (formerly known as James) Tubbs, a male in a state with self-id.

So in this case either:

a) a predatory transwoman sexually assaulted a 10 year old girl in a women's toilet; or
b) a predatory man exploited the safeguarding blindspots caused by sex self-id, by pretending to be trans and sexually assaulted a 10 year old girl in a women's toilet.

Which is it? Because you can't have it both ways.

And whichever way you cut it, two things don't change:
Tubbs' crime being described and recorded as a female/women's crime means that the much vaunted 'Oh there are no problems in places which have sex self-id' is bunkum. All those places have seen a rise in "women's" crime since 2015.

And most importantly a young girl was (and, from the sounds of it, still is) traumatised by the experience...

I came here to look for a thread on this.
I didn't believe it on Twitter that they actually put an adult male paedophile in with young girls.

It is actually unbearable to think in California! This is how little they think of girls.

I'm still not sure it is actually true