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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

People who are screened for cervical cancer

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Doyoumind · 18/01/2022 22:08

I know this subject has been covered a lot but FFS this just nonsense. The HSE in Ireland have been tweeting for Cervical Cancer Prevention Week. Their animation only refers to people. No mention of women.

But they've illustrated every 'person' who might get cervical cancer as a person in a skirt Hmm How is that inclusive of female NBs and TM and exclusive of TW? How is the message made clear to its intended audience? Why do organisations for whom absolute clarity should be essential think this is the way to communicate?

twitter.com/HSELive/status/1483016249827229697

People who are screened for cervical cancer
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Artichokeleaves · 21/01/2022 11:47

And yes, I do find having to refer to myself and other female humans as female humans dehumanising and unhelpful. But 'woman' now means something no one can explain but definitely male people, so what bloody choice have I been left with? I didn't start this. None of this was my choice.

NitroNine · 21/01/2022 17:32

Also, distasteful as many may find it, as language evolves, “females” is now used by some (predominantly younger) native English speakers in both the UK & the US (unsure re: Australia/Canada/NZ/West Indies etc) to refer to women & [pubescent] girls. By the “females” as well as the “males”.

Unfortunately I’ve not been able to find any research into its use as a dialect word, but as its use in this way makes my skin crawl I’ve observed an increase & spread not only on SM (presumably how it’s disseminated so widely so [relatively] quickly) but also in documentary films etc.

JellySaurus · 21/01/2022 19:36

@Artichokeleaves

And yes, I do find having to refer to myself and other female humans as female humans dehumanising and unhelpful. But 'woman' now means something no one can explain but definitely male people, so what bloody choice have I been left with? I didn't start this. None of this was my choice.
I quite agree.

'Females' includes cats and dolphins, just as 'people' includes males.

However, what this medical information requires is specificity, (which would also achieve inclusivity). And the only way to include OFABTM and OFABNBs is to use the word female. Which rather proves that the obfuscatory language is not about achieving inclusivity for females who don't want to be referred to as women, but rather about entirely removing the word ' women' and severing its connection with 'female'.

It's a load of great big swinging bollocks.

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