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Gender Ideology harming women and children in India

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WandaWomblesaurus73 · 07/01/2022 23:49

vaishnavisundar.com/ezine/indian-ezine-gender-ideology/

What the hell is Nancy doing? Is she some kind of Gender Emissary Missionary colonising everywhere else now?

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 08/01/2022 20:14

Western organisations are all over the place, imposing their values and priorities on India, regardless of the objections from Indian feminists.

This is a quote from an article by Jo Bartosch, concerning the organisation Mama Cash.

In 2018, international and domestic NGOs collaborated to prevent the passing of the Trafficking of Persons Bill in India. This was heralded as a victory by the Netherlands-based Mama Cash, which claimed the bill, “conflated trafficking with sex work, which would have increased stigma, discrimination and violence against sex workers, reduced their autonomy and agency, and threatened their human rights”.

The campaign, part funded by Mama Cash, undermined the work of grassroots feminist activists in India like Vaishnavi Sundar. After years of working to stop the sex trade, Sundar, a documentary film-maker and activist based in Chennai, sees the halting of the anti-trafficking bill as a form of ideological imperialism:

“In a country that is known for its ineffectual jurisprudence where women fight for three or four decades for any legal recourse, it is disquieting to see Western organisations like Mama Cash siding with groups that further amplify women’s sexual exploitation. While ‘sex work’ may benefit a minority group, to halt a bill that could potentially save thousands of children over semantics is cruel and anti-women.”

www.thecritic.co.uk/issues/june-2021/putting-women-last/

DisgustedofManchester

Ditto sexual assaults by cis women in women's prisons

Delighted to see you return to this subject! Please return to the thread you initiated on the safety and welfare of female prisoners, where I replied to you, and engage in the discussion. I would appreciate your responses to the questions I asked.

P.S. I actually have the stats on sexual assaults in the women's estate for 2012 and 2013. The impact that policy changes since then have had is obvious and negative.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 09/01/2022 01:58

@DisgustedofManchester

Of all the things harming women and children in India, this is the only one people on mumsnet wriite about?

Tell me you don't really care without telling me you don't really care

Ditto sexual assaults by cis women in women's prisons

Here's a link in case you are confused about how to find the thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4356627-Womens-Wellbeing-in-Prisons?msgid=114062444#114062444

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 09/01/2022 08:32

It's all rather ironic really when the group of people are pushing this are the same group of people saying we're supposed to tear down remnants of colonialism. Why? To make way for their new version?

Good question, aweegc. I often wonder why more people don't point out the glaring contradictions in woke ideology.

Mummyoflittledragon · 09/01/2022 08:59

This is shocking and unfortunately not just happening in India. A short article and video about gender ideology being pushed in Afghanistan. $787 million dollars is reported to have been spend on gender programmes in Afghanistan. There is a link in the article to a Twitter quote from an USAID representative, which states gender ideology had to be part of a lot of projects and created instability, causing caused many revolts. spectatorworld.com/topic/did-gender-studies-lose-afghanistan/

catzwhiskas · 09/01/2022 12:10

We have had to withdraw our very small financial donations from one of the NGOs involved previously in supporting women and children in the “red light” areas, as they now also pride themselves on inclusion policies. We are sure this is entirely pushed by other , mostly American funders and astonished to see the hold the ideology has in India.
To those pp here complaining that we do not notice other harms done, How fucking dare you come on and tell us what we should or shouldnt talk about, do, or think.

WandaWomblesaurus73 · 09/01/2022 13:32

This discussion casts a wider net and much needed scrutiny of Stonewalls operations in other countries. There is another thread about their financial records that directly relates to this. Public money is being put into this.

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ScreamingMeMe · 09/01/2022 15:10

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Western organisations are all over the place, imposing their values and priorities on India, regardless of the objections from Indian feminists.

This is a quote from an article by Jo Bartosch, concerning the organisation Mama Cash.

In 2018, international and domestic NGOs collaborated to prevent the passing of the Trafficking of Persons Bill in India. This was heralded as a victory by the Netherlands-based Mama Cash, which claimed the bill, “conflated trafficking with sex work, which would have increased stigma, discrimination and violence against sex workers, reduced their autonomy and agency, and threatened their human rights”.

The campaign, part funded by Mama Cash, undermined the work of grassroots feminist activists in India like Vaishnavi Sundar. After years of working to stop the sex trade, Sundar, a documentary film-maker and activist based in Chennai, sees the halting of the anti-trafficking bill as a form of ideological imperialism:

“In a country that is known for its ineffectual jurisprudence where women fight for three or four decades for any legal recourse, it is disquieting to see Western organisations like Mama Cash siding with groups that further amplify women’s sexual exploitation. While ‘sex work’ may benefit a minority group, to halt a bill that could potentially save thousands of children over semantics is cruel and anti-women.”

www.thecritic.co.uk/issues/june-2021/putting-women-last/

DisgustedofManchester

Ditto sexual assaults by cis women in women's prisons

Delighted to see you return to this subject! Please return to the thread you initiated on the safety and welfare of female prisoners, where I replied to you, and engage in the discussion. I would appreciate your responses to the questions I asked.

P.S. I actually have the stats on sexual assaults in the women's estate for 2012 and 2013. The impact that policy changes since then have had is obvious and negative.

That's disgusting.
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