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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If it was so complicated.....

63 replies

rabbitwoman · 01/01/2022 14:46

  • How come there are 7 billion people on the planet?
  • how did anyone get married before same sex marriage became legal?

(feel free to add your own)

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ErrolTheDragon · 01/01/2022 18:25

If it's so complicated, why does that seem to only be the case in countries where (at least on paper) everyone is supposed to have equal rights?

GinUnicorn · 01/01/2022 18:50

If it was so complicated how would we know who to sexualise and objectify when selling everything from deodorant to food?

EishetChayil · 01/01/2022 19:02

If transwomen are women, then why not hire them to be surrogate mothers?

ArtemesiaK · 01/01/2022 19:08

If it's so complicated, was (is) your Mum a woman? Did you ( to misquote Dave Chapelle) come from between the legs of a woman? If you don't think your Mum is a woman, what has she got to say about it? :)

rabbitwoman · 01/01/2022 19:13

If it is so complicated, maybe rose west, John Warboys, Harvey weinstein, Bill Cosby, ghislaine maxwell, Ted bundy or Denis nilsen can explain?

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Aroundtheworldin80moves · 01/01/2022 19:27

If its so complicated...
How did the person who attacked me as a teenager know who to grab off the street and start dragging me down a dark alley?

How was I able to tell the police the persons sex by the fact I saw an exposed penis during this?

Artichokeleaves · 01/01/2022 19:58

@rabbitwoman

If its so complicated, how come Margaret Attwood was able to write the handmaid's tale? How else would she explain what happened when the people in blue held down the people in red for the people in trousers? If its all so complicated thise scenes become a bit of a nonsense, don't they?
I'm sure I remember a few years ago much wailing on SM that no TW were being inclusively oppressed in red cloaks.

Words fail at that point.

Snugglepumpkin · 01/01/2022 20:53

If it was so complicated then how do they figure out who they need to carry a baby to term?

It's something not all biological women can do, but it is something that only biological women can do.

DoYouSeaWhatISea · 01/01/2022 22:14

We have Genetic conditions that run in males our family, so I had PGD (preimplantation genetic diagnosis) with IVF. I knew the sex was female prior to embryo transfer.

She’s now a feisty 10 yr old girl, and is the reason we wake up every morning.

Prior to having her, we had a son who died just before his 7th birthday. I wouldn’t wish this heartbreak on anyone, and am eternally grateful for the scientists and doctors who understand there are 2 sexes.

PrincessNutella · 01/01/2022 22:33

DoYouSea--I am so sorry that you lost your sweet six year old.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/01/2022 22:38

DoYouSeaWhatISea

My condolences to you and yours on his loss. Flowers There are no words.

NotBadConsidering · 01/01/2022 22:43

If it’s so complicated, why do only a certain group of ex-judges in Afghanistan need to fear for their lives?

If it’s so complicated, why don’t Boko Haram spend hours or days deliberating on who to kidnap after raiding a village?

Whatwouldscullydo · 01/01/2022 22:50

If its so complicated how come no one is sharing the secrets of GI to prevent all the potential boys being aborted or thrown on the trash heap befire they can verbalise their identities. Surely a better use if of time than posting on twitter with a baseball bat?

And how does everyone know who has a womb they can rent fir 9 months.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 01/01/2022 23:21

If it's so complicated, wouldn't it be best to hear out all arguments surrounding the extremely complicated thing, in order to understand.
Instead of, you know, sending death and rape threats and calling for people to be fired etc for talking.

Star

And to all the excellent specific examples posted here.

rabbitwoman · 01/01/2022 23:42

If its so complicated, how did race officials know to try and physically Kathrine Switzer from running the Boston Marathon in 1967?

If it was so complicated.....
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ScrollingLeaves · 01/01/2022 23:55

“DoYouSeaWhatISea

We have Genetic conditions that run in males our family, so I had PGD (preimplantation genetic diagnosis) with IVF. I knew the sex was female prior to embryo transfer.

She’s now a feisty 10 yr old girl, and is the reason we wake up every morning.

Prior to having her, we had a son who died just before his 7th birthday. I wouldn’t wish this heartbreak on anyone, and am eternally grateful for the scientists and doctors who understand there are 2 sexes.”

I am so sorry for this dreadfully sad loss of your lovely little boy due to this genetic condition.

DoYouSeaWhatISea · 02/01/2022 03:05

Thanks you, everyone, for your kind words to a stranger on MN. It’s been 11 years since we lost our son, but it could be yesterday. Losing a little boy after almost 7 years of leaving no stone unturned to try and find life saving treatment, is beyond devastating.

Our daughter is a gift, a strong and healthy 10 yr old, and we consider ourselves beyond fortunate that science was able to help us have her, for the 2nd part of our parenting journey. This required medical professionals to understand the very basics, simply that there are only 2 sexes.

It’s maddening to see this sex/gender debate going on, trying to gaslight us into buying in to their ideology.

Thanks again for acknowledging our little boy, it meant more than words can say.

DoYouSeaWhatISea · 02/01/2022 06:43

I don’t want to derail this important thread with my personal situation, so I’m back to try and give it a bump.

NotBadConsidering · 02/01/2022 07:17

DoYouSeaWhatISea Flowers

If it’s so complicated, can a gender ideologist explain how Team GB selected their swimmers for the mixed medley relay? Did they need to make sure they had someone good at breaststroke and identified the right way?

If it was so complicated.....
rabbitwoman · 02/01/2022 07:50

doyouseawhatisea thank you for sharing your beautiful, painful story Xxxx

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DaisiesandButtercups · 02/01/2022 08:50

If it is so complicated how does James Max know which people should be kept out of his clubs and restaurants?

Igmum · 02/01/2022 09:04

If it's so complicated how on earth has the patriarchy survived for so long? Don't they get confused? Ever?

rabbitwoman · 02/01/2022 09:06

If it is so complicated, how come I am not allowed to just wear swimming trunks at my local swimming pool!?

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ScrollingLeaves · 02/01/2022 16:49

If it’s so complicated why don’t lions morph into lionesses, rams into ewes, horses into mares, peacocks into pea-hens? And if it’s so complicated how come we always know the difference between them?

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 02/01/2022 16:52

If its so complicated, how come no one with a penis has birthed a child in the last many billion births?