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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Baltic Flour Mills gateshead

72 replies

tanama · 31/12/2021 18:31

I've named changed for this as local to me

I haven't been here for a while but I went a few days ago. Felt it had gone downhill, the current exhibitions were a bit naff and they have changed the cafe which was overpriced. I quite like the shop but it is £££££ and the viewing platform was shut.

One exhibition was by Ad Minoliti who "uses feminist and queer theory to generate alternative interpretations of painting, design, architecture, art history and visual language" and featured giant cartoonish cats and wolves in silky dressing gowns which have me an AGP vibe.

Anyway, as you go into the lobby there are neon signs EVERYWHERE you look about hate crime, hit it won't be tolerated, etc etc, it then lists characteristics which hate crime can be based on and of course sex isn't on there but gender identity is.

It it just me who thinks that this is completely unnecessary?How much hate crime occurs exactly in a modern art gallery with an overpriced cafe mainly frequented by middle class types?? Or is this just virtue signally by the gallery trying to prove their woke credentials?

If you are someone who belongs to a minority group I think it would out you on edge and give you the impression that you are likely to face "hate" at every turn as you survey the pretentious art.

I wonder if the Harry miller case will mean we will see less of this.

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WorriedMumsDontSleep · 31/12/2021 18:52

I keep a stash of adult human female stickers in my bag for such an occasion.
They're in my period supplies box so noone will ever find them in a search.

tanama · 31/12/2021 18:54

Oh I actually ordered some I ❤️ JKR ones but lost them when I moved house

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 31/12/2021 18:57

Honestly it's ridiculous. They ran a Drag children's storyline there recently.

Fucking annoying as the views are good and the okay area is canny but the TRA vibes do my head in.

Must get some stickers....

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 31/12/2021 18:57

Play not okay

BlueberryCheezecake · 31/12/2021 18:58

Why on earth would cats and wolves give you an agp vibe? Do you even know what agp (supposedly) is?

LightningJenny · 31/12/2021 19:00

"Anyway, as you go into the lobby there are neon signs EVERYWHERE you look about hate crime, hit it won't be tolerated, etc etc, it then lists characteristics which hate crime can be based on and of course sex isn't on there but gender identity is."

Aaaaargh, this makes me so angry. If you're going to be threatening at least get the law right!!

bordermidgebite · 31/12/2021 19:01

I suspect blue that it was how the animals were portrayed that was the problem

BlueberryCheezecake · 31/12/2021 19:01

Maybe the reason they've put those signs up is because people keep graffitiing the place up with stickers. What on earth makes you think it's ok to go sticking stuff all over museum exhibits. What childish behaviour.

UltraVividLament · 31/12/2021 19:05

Maybe in that case signs might need to mention not graffiti-ing...

Neon signs is a bit of a weird approach. Is it part of the art installation maybe?

UltraVividLament · 31/12/2021 19:08

The wolves and cats do have a "furries" vibe which I'm guessing was totally intentional from the artist.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 31/12/2021 19:09

baltic.art/hate-crime-policy

nocoolnamesleft · 31/12/2021 19:11

So they're just fine with sexism and misogyny? No surprise there.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 31/12/2021 19:12

But to be fair to Baltic, even the Home Office doesn't include biological sex in its hate crime info. Because obvs misogyny is too ingrained to be able to be policed.

Artichokeleaves · 31/12/2021 19:20

Makes me think of the workhouse in Oliver Twist which had the commandments and texts painted all over the walls to indoctrinate the inmates.

tanama · 31/12/2021 19:42

Why on earth would cats and wolves give you an agp vibe? Do you even know what agp (supposedly) is?

Yes I do as I do frequent these boards but as I say I have name changed as this is local to me so may be outing.

They were adult sized wolf/cat costumes- like a football mascot, but with breasts, in a 70s style silk psychedelic dressing gown. Vibes were maybe more kinky/furries, reminded me of the wolf in little red riding hood dressing up as the grandma in a sort of sinister sexualised way. Apologies but that was the vibe I got.

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MsGoodenough · 31/12/2021 19:44

To be fair to the Baltic, sexism and misogyny don't count as hate crimes in law. However, it doesn't surprise me at all that a modern art gallery is fully signed up to gender woo.

tanama · 31/12/2021 19:45

It is infuriating

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 31/12/2021 19:54

@BlueberryCheezecake

Why on earth would cats and wolves give you an agp vibe? Do you even know what agp (supposedly) is?
Spend an hour randomly surfing deviantart and then ask this question. Grin
BlueberryCheezecake · 31/12/2021 20:18

All I'm learning here is there's literally nothing you lot won't try and blame on "AGP". If you meant it gave you a furry vibe, then say that. Not the same thing.

tanama · 31/12/2021 20:27

@BlueberryCheezecake well they both come under the same broad fetishistic umbrella to me

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bordermidgebite · 31/12/2021 20:28

A poster writes that the whole vibe was off, misogynistic. Isn't the rule that if a person from a vulnerable group says something is wrong you should listen and learn ? Not try to distract, dismiss or justify

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 31/12/2021 20:28

The Baltic is honestly an actual headfuck of a gallery. Modern art is obvs meant to be a bit left of the wall but Baltic turned that up to eleven and relish being "the Liberal north" and thinking they are trailblazing.

BlueberryCheezecake · 31/12/2021 20:30

[quote tanama]@BlueberryCheezecake well they both come under the same broad fetishistic umbrella to me [/quote]
Translation: It's a Thing You Don't Like so you had to try and blame it on the nasty transes somehow

Shedmistress · 31/12/2021 20:33

Wolves in silky dressing gowns lol. They can't help themselves can they?

Say what you see people.

BlueShirtGuy · 31/12/2021 20:35

In fairness they are always off their rockers. I saw a delightful instillation there that was a piece of black and yellow tape across the door, a sign saying 'closed for cleaning' and then a coke can on the floor.

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