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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

People with prostate cancer - do you think men will start to get it now?

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SorryAuntLydia · 27/12/2021 11:26

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59783179

People with prostates’
‘Prostate cancer can be slow growing and tends to affect people in old age.’

Prof Eeles from Cancer Research does mention men… but only as a statistic and it’s easy to miss.

According to the article, the symptoms of prostate cancer include
‘needing to pee more frequently particularly at night’
‘difficulty starting to pee, weak flow and it taking a long time’
Plenty of of women tick both these boxes…

Yet again, BBC standards are failed by blind adherence to gender woo.

As a woman who lost a much loved relative to a late diagnosis of prostate cancer, I am appalled that the BBC is failing to inform and educate men about something so important.

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FannyCann · 28/12/2021 08:47

Great post @Artichokeleaves

I also second @Atmywitsend29 point about young people getting typically "old people cancers". I work in a diagnostic area of the hospital. We have recently had several very young (30's) previously extremely fit and well people if both sexes diagnosed with advanced metastatic bowel cancer. Mild symptoms for a short period of time that could easily have been dismissed and in one case picked up on a precautionary CT after a car crash. Devastating.

JellySaurus · 28/12/2021 09:54

I don't think men will 'start to get it' now. They generally assume that people refers specifically to them, so it would not occur to them that the message is unclear. And if they don't know what a prostate is, then it's clearly not that important.

Most men aren't bothered about gender identity and trans ideology. As far as they are concerned, if males opt out of being men, then it's nothing to do with them any more.

What makes men 'get it' is generally either sport, or actual harm to women they personally care about, eg wives, partners, daughters and mothers. The women they consider 'theirs'.

EishetChayil · 28/12/2021 10:53

The fact that so many people think it's "prostrate" (meaning lying flat) implies that the term isn't widely understood, and therefore requires precise language to make sure the message reaches those who need it.

TerraNovaTwo · 28/12/2021 11:17

I am a person.... I don't have a prostate. This is exclusionary language because not all people have this organ. Certain organs and bodily systems are specific to biological SEX. Male/female.

Rightsraptor · 28/12/2021 17:01

The queerteacher tells us that 'Using the word "people" does not take away from the importance of getting regular check ups for a range of medical issues dependent on your age and medical/family history.'

Teacher what do you mean by 'does not take away from'? Using 'people' hides, it obfuscates, it renders opaque. This can only be a negative when dealing with healthcare issues.

Screening is a public health service in which members of a determined population, who do not necessarily realise they are at risk of, or are already affected by a disease or its complications, can receive tests of varying types. Two big, no two MASSIVELY important factors in determining these populations are age and sex. Yes, sex. Not gender, not gender identity, not feelings. Cold, hard science. Biology.

When I am screened for breast cancer or bowel cancer it is not because of my family history, still less because of my feelings. One screening is based on my age and the other is based on my age plus my sex. When I was getting regular checks for potential ovarian cancer, which was because of my family history, it was because of my sex and age. Still age and still sex. There is no escaping either of them, apart from dying.

All this 'people' rubbish from the BBC will merely make lots of us stop listening to them because we know their reporting is not to be trusted.

WallaceinAnderland · 29/12/2021 17:00

About 50,000 people in the UK are diagnosed with the disease each year, and nearly 12,000 die.

So is that about 25,000 men and 25,000 women?

Come on BBC, thought you'd stopped this nonsense.

Metabigot · 29/12/2021 17:07

I was on a subreddit where a lot of trans people are against this kind of jargon as it reminds them of the body parts they find uncomfortable (as belonging to their birth sex) and would rather not be reminded of.

So who is driving this language? The ultra woke brigade? But for whom?

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