JK Rowling, Orwellian Doublethink now in Times

[Politics4me]

Most of the facts are already on a thread about the Twitter report. Mike Merritt article. across top of page 7 incl pic of JKR. Further comments and quotes.
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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-attacks-orwellian-rape-policy-h29mhrwm5

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Bit depressing that a broadsheet like The Times has to explain the 1984 reference though.

Twitter is full of, mainly men, saying it doesn't matter if a rapist is called a women as rape is rape...Well yes rape is rape, a male crime based on a male body unwantedly entering a female body to cause pain and humiliation.

Interesting point in one of the comments: if you refer to a defendant with a penis and no GRC as "she", are you not committing perjury? Again, how do such issues affect the right to a fair trial?

You are essentially forcing the victim abd witnesses to lie. Could this not then form a basis for a mistrial?

My mind boggles:

Detective Superintendent Fil Capaldi said: “The sex/gender identification of individuals who come into contact with the police will be based on how they present or how they selfdeclare, which is consistent with the values of the organisation. Police Scotland requires no evidence or certification as proof of biological sex or gender identity other than a person’s self-declaration, unless it is pertinent to any investigation with which they are linked.”

So, Police Scotland simply take the word of suspects? And they don't see an issue with this?

@Enough4me

Twitter is full of, mainly men, saying it doesn't matter if a rapist is called a women as rape is rape...Well yes rape is rape, a male crime based on a male body unwantedly entering a female body to cause pain and humiliation.

Not to mention the female socialisation in a patriarchy causing so many rape victims to blame themselves and never report. And male socialisation causing males to make stupid comments on twitter that prove how hard it is for most males (of any gender ID or none) to imagine themselves into the female experience.

As a person with first hand experience of this crime, the biggest relief from the horror of internalised shame came when radical feminism allowed me to understand that it wasn't my fault. I was merely the victim of a depressingly common form of male violence.

Honestly, I was bathed in the latter stages of lad culture growing up. I thought "equality" meant women were actually as physically strong as men.

I couldn't understand why I froze.

The misogynists can fuck right off about this one.

So sorry you've been through that PaleGreenGhost and yes it is horrific that victims are reprimanded from the bench for not using the rapist's chosen pronouns. I cannot believe that anyone thinks it is legitimate. Well done JKR and the Times for highlighting this

The sex/gender identification of individuals who come into contact with the police will be based on how they present or how they selfdeclare, which is consistent with the values of the organisation.

1. they use sex and gender interchangeablt, which is transphobic.
2. what if presentation and self- declaration contradict each other? It's implied that the self-id will take precedence, but is this an explicit policy?
3. is "presentation" what sex someone appears to be, or whether their clothes, hair etc are of one sex-role stereotype or another?

So much fail in such a few words.

Did you rape this woman?
No, my lord. The man I used to be did.

@GoodieMoomin

My mind boggles:

Detective Superintendent Fil Capaldi said: “The sex/gender identification of individuals who come into contact with the police will be based on how they present or how they selfdeclare, which is consistent with the values of the organisation. Police Scotland requires no evidence or certification as proof of biological sex or gender identity other than a person’s self-declaration, unless it is pertinent to any investigation with which they are linked.”

So, Police Scotland simply take the word of suspects? And they don't see an issue with this?

Quite. Do Police Scotland simply take the suspect’s word for it when they say ‘I’m innocent’?

If they don’t think it’s ‘pertinent’ to a rape case then when the hell do they? Who gets to decide when it’s pertinent or not? Do they have strict rules around this? Are they saying it’s pertinent when it’s a ‘hate crime’ but not when it’s a rape case?

So much to unpick..

@Enough4me

Twitter is full of, mainly men, saying it doesn't matter if a rapist is called a women as rape is rape...Well yes rape is rape, a male crime based on a male body unwantedly entering a female body to cause pain and humiliation.

Though it matters greatly if the rapist is convicted and sent to a women’s prison.

in a trial you have to swear on oath to speak the truth, whole truth and nothing but the truth - so - given biological sex is immutable - the truth is a man/male committed the crime. This whole shite needs to stop!

@Enough4me

Twitter is full of, mainly men, saying it doesn't matter if a rapist is called a women as rape is rape...Well yes rape is rape, a male crime based on a male body unwantedly entering a female body to cause pain and humiliation.

I wonder how many of them a) think that they could never ever be raped (probably believing that male rape doesn’t happen), and b) would be cool standing up in court (should they be in that position) and refer to their rapist as ‘she’?

“Police Scotland requires no evidence or certification as proof of biological sex or gender identity other than a person’s self-declaration, unless it is pertinent to any investigation with which they are linked.”

I mean I think that biological sex is pretty damn pertinent in every single rape investigation, but maybe that's just old fashioned.

Not sure why my post was deleted, definitely didn't rant or swear.

Trigger words?

A piece in Spiked by Brendan O'Neill on the treatment of JK Rowling:

"Won’t somebody think of the rapists?"

www.spiked-online.com/2021/12/14/wont-somebody-think-of-the-rapists/

I have kept myself amused with the apparently guiles tweets asking why she is plagiarising another author

I doubt they even stopped to think about it. Just sailed on in and exposed yet another are where they refuse to apply critical thinking skills.

Utterly ridiculous.

Anyone who has definitely presented themselves to their victim penis first should be referred to as what they are which is either a man or someone who says they are a transwoman.

What they can't be as a rapist is a woman because women do not have penises to shove into other people.

Should a penis always have a separate pronoun. If named it would be a male name, so male pronoun. Moreover, as the penis features specifically in rape could the rapist be referred to as penis...the penis forced his way into me?
When sentencing...the penis is sentenced to life in a male prison?

That should reduce rape and highlight that it's the penis at fault.