Flouncity flounce

[FloralBunting]

Well, sort of. I've come to the end of my time on MN. I've been here under various names for the best part of two decades, and it's been transformational. I've met some of my best friends, received great advice about raising my kids, dealing with abuse, and most of all, shifted from being a mousey submissive wife Christian into a complete gobshite feminist lesbian.

I haven't been a regular for quite some time. I'm active and busy doing other things tbh. But I do occasionally pop in to see what's what. The past few times reminded me why I stopped visiting that much in the first place. I am often deleted now, and the feeling of walking on eggshells in case I'm reported by TRAs is no less unpleasant now than it was when this was the only platform available to talk about women's rights, albeit in a highly controlled manner.

It's not the only platform anymore, not by a very long way, so I'm making the decision to not submit to that feeling ever again. So, sort of flounce, yes, but mostly it's a fond farewell to the many women whom I've been helped by on MN and FWR whom I don't know offline. Keep speaking up in your own sphere, be more JKR, be more Magdalen, be anonymous and know that whatever you do makes a difference.

Women and girls matter, including you, so take good care of yourself.

Sincerely wims, go well.

@FloralBunting and a koala stamp 🐨 from me to you
It was hearing about the experiences of lesbians that got me from ‘but be kind though’ to the top of this very tall hill. You are one of the posters who showed me that, as well as the similarities to religious coercion.

There must be countless lurkers who feel the same as I do.

Thank you

floral you’re one of my favourite posters - have learnt a lot from reading your thoughts, though don’t post often myself. Glad you will use your powers in arenas where you feel you can be more effective at less cost to yourself.

As a long-term name changer from before the Spartacus days, I’m saddened to see you go Floral, but encouraged that we’re no longer 100% reliant on MN as the only corner of the internet to try to push back against this madness.

I’m hopeful that this current hyped up activity by the monitors and activists is an extinction burst because they can read the writing on the wall…we are women, hear us roar.

Thank you for everything you’ve taught me over the years

Floral

I agree with Double MN doesn’t need to be a place to ‘stay’ in, it is more of ‘an academy’, and we learn, feel less alone, more empowered and then move onto discussion outside of MN, in our daily lives.

I hope all the FWR crew have an inkling as to how far and wide their courage has called to courage in others’.

Sad to see you go, Floral. Your way with words always makes me laugh, and I love the way you cut through the bullshit.

I don't post on MN much and name change a fair bit but I read a lot, especially on FWR. I would say I've definitely been radicalised by the vipers of FWR and I have appreciated your contribution to that process. Like others above say, go well and thank you.

Sorry to see you go FloralBunting. I've felt like you do now and deleted my old account. In the end I came back, so see you around sometime maybe?

Bugger. I like your posts.

I understand your feelings though. Sending you best wishes.

I'm sad to hear this too, Floral. Hope to see you back here sometime.
Non illegitimi carborundum and all that. .

Don't be a stranger! Take care and au revoir.

Aw Floral I'm gutted. I've learned a lot from you and I enjoy your posts, but I understand your feelings. Take care of yourself 💐

You'll be sorely missed, but I fully understand your reasoning. There can be many strong reasons to remain in a relationship that has turned abusive, but nothing compares to the feeling of lightness, freedom and possibilities that comes with leaving and regaining control over yourself.

I love how the wisdom of the women who have been banned or driven away has been absorbed by the many lurkers, who gain confidence and gradually become the wise women who will in turn inspire the new lurkers.

Take care Floral, your time here as been invaluable. I have learnt a great deal from you and hope to cross paths in another realm.

May the odds be forever in your favour 💪🏻

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

Don't be a stranger! Take care and au revoir.

This. Pop back sometime

I love how the wisdom of the women who have been banned or driven away has been absorbed by the many lurkers, who gain confidence and gradually become the wise women who will in turn inspire the new lurkers.

Not so much vipers but the hydra...get rid of one of us and two more spring up in their place.

Take care Floral, you will be missed but your wisdom will remain here.

Aw floral. You are awesome.

Much kisses and hugs. From me to you

Go well as been said to some of us 🤣

Oh no Floral! :( I've been here many years too and I do know what you mean. But I've really appreciated your posts and learned from so many of them. This space and these discussions, where women can think through and debate what this all means and what's happening to us, are so important.

Good luck to you and see you in the feminist future. We will get there. And yes pop back in!

Hugs @FloralBunting

Another lurker who is sad to see you go, but respects your reasons why.
Thank you for your posts. I have learned so much from them. I started out as a mouse squeak for feminism, but it's getting louder by the day.

You miss them when they're gone. A couple of posters I've noticed missing recently are Michelle of the resistance and Rowantrees. Don't know when they left, assuming they've left.

Thanks for all you've done here, @FloralBunting, I love your posts.

I'll miss you, Floral. But I take heart from the fact that this forum has played a huge role in changing the conversation on this issue, to the extent that Helen Joyce even mentions Mumsnet in her book as one of the reasons the UK is so far ahead of the US in fighting trans ideology.

I too am sorry to see you go floral, I always like reading your posts.

Despite the restrictions I do love the brilliant women on here, I came to laugh at/with AIBU and now I spend my time emailing MPs etc about this issue. Definitely radicalised by Mumsnet!

Do let us know if we can find you elsewhere.

I'm sorry to see you go Floral, I have lurked here for a few years and learned so much from you and other wise ladies.

I understand your frustration, when even a site that is meant to be for women doesn't allow open discussion and biological reality, it really is infuriating.

I keep hoping we'll all just decamp somewhere else, if enough of us leave then we could keep the momentum going and build something better.

You've been great Floral 🍷🍸

Sad to see you go, you have contributed hugely here to waking up so many. There will be others who will pass on the baton and in other ways the picture is changing, although it is ironic that we still cannot speak plainly, here of all places. Hope to see you elsewhere.