Cross party amendment on recording crime perps/victims birth sex (live now)

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In case anyone is still up you can watch this live on Parliament TV. It's a very late night as the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill has had hundreds of amendments and at least 2 extra days have had to be added to the debate (hence the late sitting to get through lots of amendments).

Should be coming up in the next few minutes, currently on 292F (Lord McColl amendment on 'Modern slavery through control of another's property'):

"LORD WASSERMAN (C)
BARONESS MORRIS OF YARDLEY (L)
BARONESS GREY-THOMPSON (XB)
BARONESS LUDFORD (LD)

292G Insert the following new Clause—
“Recording the sex and acquired gender of alleged victims and perpetrators of crime
After section 44 of the Police Act 1996 insert—
“44A Recording sex registered at birth and acquired gender
(1) Police forces in England and Wales must keep a record of the sex
registered at birth of each person who is—
(a) the alleged victim of a crime reported to that police force, or
(b) arrested for a crime by a member of that police force.
(2) Police forces in England and Wales must keep a record of the acquired gender of each person with a gender recognition certificate who is—
(a) the alleged victim of a crime reported to a member of that police
force, or
(b) arrested for a crime by a member of that police force.
(3) Provision by a police force to the Secretary of State of any protected information recorded under subsection (2) above does not constitute an offence under section 22 of the Gender Recognition Act 2004.”

Member’s explanatory statement
This amends the Police Act 1996 to ensure that the sex registered at birth and acquired gender, if appropriate, of anyone who is the alleged victim of a crime or who is arrested for a crime will be recorded by police"

www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/85093260-1305-4215-8109-ed6f679bf0e6

We will post a clip of the debate as soon as we can after it ends.

This is all b**cks. Person with GRC has no obligation to reveal it's existance or to produce it to anyone, but produces "new" birth certificate. Job done. And police would have to insist every victim and suspect produce a birth certificate if they want to be accurate.

More to the point, what would Baroness Brinton propose to keep rapists (GRC or not) out of women’s prisons? Or can we infer that, on balance, she supports rapists having that resource available to them?

Valid question. But not one that is “more to the point”. The point of this thread is amendment 292G in Monday’s debate on the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill. This debate covered a particular draft amendment on recording the sex and acquired gender of ALLEGED victims and perpetrators of crime in which Brinton made, in my view, a number of balanced and reasonable points.

The issue of rapists in women’s prisons was not addressed.

If someone would like to know what her view on that separate issue is they should perhaps write and ask her.

@Weihnachtsmarkt

More to the point, what would Baroness Brinton propose to keep rapists (GRC or not) out of women’s prisons? Or can we infer that, on balance, she supports rapists having that resource available to them?

Valid question. But not one that is “more to the point”. The point of this thread is amendment 292G in Monday’s debate on the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill. This debate covered a particular draft amendment on recording the sex and acquired gender of ALLEGED victims and perpetrators of crime in which Brinton made, in my view, a number of balanced and reasonable points.

The issue of rapists in women’s prisons was not addressed.

If someone would like to know what her view on that separate issue is they should perhaps write and ask her.

Surely the answer would be to house all sex offenders on "beast wings" for their own and everyone elses safety. Regardless of sex or gender.