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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

DM article - ministers urged to investigate gender ideology in schools

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Popuptent · 21/11/2021 09:13

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10225249/Ministers-urged-launch-probe-alarming-spread-extreme-transgender-ideology-schools.html

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DoubleTweenQueen · 24/11/2021 22:06

It's nuts, isn't it! Heard a program on cults on the radio yesterday, and how young people are particularly susceptible and at risk of being strongly influenced.
Yet this doesn't seem to be taken into account when kids are getting sucked into the gender ideology woo. I don't get it.

DoubleTweenQueen · 24/11/2021 22:09

Please everyone look at the conversion therapy bill consultation with the Govnmt.

Psychotherapy, psychiatry and counseling services are already fearful of looking at deeper trauma and pressured into not questioning a trans self-diagnosis.

Pinkspecs · 25/11/2021 09:35

@DoubleTweenQueen

It's nuts, isn't it! Heard a program on cults on the radio yesterday, and how young people are particularly susceptible and at risk of being strongly influenced. Yet this doesn't seem to be taken into account when kids are getting sucked into the gender ideology woo. I don't get it.
Yes I don't know why the fact how easily influenced young people can be hasn't been taken into account. My son tells me that quite a few in his school are now trans and it's all they talk about. He said it's like they're so brainwashed they think it's all that defines them walking around in their groups of trans and non binary. Talking about how they are oppressed regularly.

Being a teenager can be such a confusing time it all sounds so easy to get sucked into, the need to fit in.
It's very worrying, I for one would hate for my kid to feel they are oppressed. I don't believe it's a good thing to get children to believe, they should instead be taught you can do anything, reach for the stars.
I think schools seem to be massively failing children in that respect too.

RedCarpetRebellion · 25/11/2021 22:36

@DoubleTweenQueen

How did it go?

DoubleTweenQueen · 26/11/2021 06:58

@RedCarpetRebellion I think we're ok. They're not socially transitioning her. They've heard me regarding previous bullying, current difficulties, general concerns.
Made a few points about their SAGA club which were written down and am expecting will be reviewed.
All going to work towards finding other things she can get involved in and focus on - bit more responsibility, build self esteem.

Think it will be ok.
Still will be adding my voice to swell of parental concern generally.

Meagaidh · 26/11/2021 07:24

So many LAs have signed up to SW's Education Equality Index - I am challenging mine as it has direct links to SW and Mermaids from its Education and Learning pages and SW speak all over its website. I approached the Local Councillor who is currently convenor of the council and she is asking the CEO and Director of Education to respond. I get the impression that no one has asked before, but I really hope that's not true.

The other thing that should be talked about more is semantic/social contagion: 'the demographic of teenage girls that have previously been most susceptible to eating disorders and self harm are now starting to identify as the opposite sex in clusters, via social contagion, resulting in whole peer groups coming out as trans'. This is from voidifremoved.medium.com/the-aclu-censorship-and-semantic-contagion-fa994cec24e

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/11/2021 08:06

Glad to hear the meeting went well DoubleTweenQueen Sounds as if it's yet another school that have cluelessly gone along with this without thinking of the consequnces.

As Meagaidh points out, Local Authorities unthinkingly promote all this to schools - as does the DfE via statutory guidance on the Equality Act - which some of us have been challenging for years.

The more parents intervene and challenge schools about their unthinking involvement in this, the better.

DoubleTweenQueen · 26/11/2021 16:49

Yes, I will be alerting other parents to the situation :/

RedCarpetRebellion · 28/11/2021 10:55

[quote DoubleTweenQueen]@RedCarpetRebellion I think we're ok. They're not socially transitioning her. They've heard me regarding previous bullying, current difficulties, general concerns.
Made a few points about their SAGA club which were written down and am expecting will be reviewed.
All going to work towards finding other things she can get involved in and focus on - bit more responsibility, build self esteem.

Think it will be ok.
Still will be adding my voice to swell of parental concern generally.[/quote]
Glad it went well.

DoubleTweenQueen · 29/11/2021 13:02

@RedCarpetRebellion As you may gather from my comments on another thread, actually am now more concerned than I though I needed to be about the SAGA club, after dramatic change in mood in DD after attending it last week, and other children's comments about it, plus some digital digging.
I think in the meeting with school, I was being placated.

Round II !!

RedCarpetRebellion · 29/11/2021 13:22

[quote DoubleTweenQueen]@RedCarpetRebellion As you may gather from my comments on another thread, actually am now more concerned than I though I needed to be about the SAGA club, after dramatic change in mood in DD after attending it last week, and other children's comments about it, plus some digital digging.
I think in the meeting with school, I was being placated.

Round II !![/quote]
Yes often this is what schools do. I’ve found this while addressing the pshe teaching at primary and I thought they were happy to be working with us, but in reality we’re fobbing us off to try and work round the DfE guidance rather than follow it.

Formal complaints are the only option really. But be very well informed first.

Especially regarding a club like this- there will be sections of keeping children safe in education and working together to safeguard children that are relevant in complaints about this. Teaching children about safeguarding in the first, informing parents in the second. The pshe guidance and plan your curriculum guidance have relevant points also. It’s worth printing out all of them and highlight the relevant sections to refer directly to in a formal complaint. Refer to ofsteds peer on peer abuse report also- how can any school safeguard girls against boys when they teach them boys can be girls? Reference anything disability related if possible- girls with autism rates of referalls to Tavistock, factual language needed for their commication needs, higher safeguards needed etc. Public sector equality duty means all protected characteristic must have equal weight, except disability that is given great legal protections/priority. Always worth referencing of possible. And asking for equality impact assessment that shows lgbt+ require greater money/time spent on their needs as opposed to race or sex or any other pc. Ask for the safeguarding risk assessment for the club and ask if the schools insurance is well aware of this club and the safeguarding risks and will pay out if it goes wrong.

A complaint following the formal complaint procedure titled formal complaint means ofsted will review how they resolve it, and that can have better outcome that others.

Look at what outside agencies they bring in for this club/pshe/bullying etc - do they comply with dfe guidance to not teach children they are born in the wrong body. Ask for evidence the materials are working together complaint and what level safeguarding training visitors have.

Always always get written answers, minute, establish a time line you want things dealt with and what resolution you expect. And escalate complaints where needed.

If you have a serious concern about well fare or safeguarding contact ofsted.

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