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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Warwick University and Stonewall

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Igneococcus · 19/11/2021 09:15

So much energy spent on rising in the equality index:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/62d2c5a8-48c1-11ec-9969-911e63457092?shareToken=f53b6e05fb469f07c6b7e3537b2cde6f

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MarshmallowSwede · 20/11/2021 13:04

Why is who you sleep with or not sleep with being made into the most important thing about a person?

All these different labels that change constantly. Feelings changed from one minute to the next? Then you have a New gender identity minute to minute … Personality. That’s what it used to be called. Now parts of a personality are made into a label that supposedly defines who you are as a person.

It used to be that we wished to move away from labels and people wanted a world where we were allowed to just exist as we are. Now it seems they want to force labels onto everyone (focusing on children and young adults) to put themselves into a box and then to make that label the main focus of who they are.

Introducing yourself based on who you have sex with or what you identify as is amazingly abnormal and creates a sense of over familiarity in a moment where repoire is meant to be building. It’s a breakdown of boundaries in the most basic of human interactions. No one need to know such personal information on first or even second meeting. Why can’t we stick to introducing one another by name? Why even the need to explain your pronouns? As in English if I refer to you by name it’s fine. If I speak about you to someone else then you don’t have a right to dictate how I speak about you in my conversations to other.

Who you are sexually attracted to is not a personality. That’s one small part of who you are. It seems we are going to be faced with a generation of emotionally stunted individuals who have no concept of self unless it is around who they choose to sex. This is sad and worrying.

It is turning society into an even more sexually charged environment in all areas.
There are very few places one can go to that isn’t permeated by sex these days. Children can no longer just exist without sex even permeating what should be safe spaces for children to just exist.

It’s disturbing.

CruellaDeVilla · 20/11/2021 13:08

@Signalbox

"People should be introduced as “they” until they voice their pronouns."

I can't see this being very popular with non-binary people. It'll mean the pronoun "they" will end up as the default pronoun and how can they feel special if a bunch of "cis" people are also referred to as they.

SUCH BULLSHIT, it feels like we’re in a parallel universe , doesn’t it?
Mumoftwoinprimary · 20/11/2021 13:24

@KittenKong

If I was interviewing staff these days, a fresh Warwick graduate would be viewed with suspicion. Would the be an insufferable brat? Would they be demanding mixed wax facilities? Asking for days off to hide under the bed if someone genders them (let alone misgender a them). What else would they be demanding as their god given right as a overindulged young person?
On the bright side - “insufferable brat” is a significant upgrade from “rapist” which is what we were all wondering about your average Warwick boy before this.

So maybe it is a strategic upgrade by the university.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 20/11/2021 13:30

It used to be that we wished to move away from labels and people wanted a world where we were allowed to just exist as we are. Now it seems they want to force labels onto everyone

And we’re ordered to think this is progressive.

KittenKong · 20/11/2021 14:58

Mumoftwoinprimary - I thought it was somewhere up in the northeast that had the rape culture... god what are we letting our kids into?

CatherinaJTV · 20/11/2021 15:01

@KittenKong

If I was interviewing staff these days, a fresh Warwick graduate would be viewed with suspicion. Would the be an insufferable brat? Would they be demanding mixed wax facilities? Asking for days off to hide under the bed if someone genders them (let alone misgender a them). What else would they be demanding as their god given right as a overindulged young person?
with an attitude like that you probably shouldn't be interviewing staff. You sound really prejudiced.
KittenKong · 20/11/2021 15:08

Have you interviewed many staff? Yes, HR would consider the possibility these days that someone fresh out of a college or uni that is particularly mired in this would potentially have ideas and beliefs that would not work well in a professional environment. That’s being aware...

spongedog · 20/11/2021 16:05

"a year or two back The Times handed moderation to this outfit:

www.openweb.com/moderation-and-safety/

We actively incentivize and nudge users to be positive contributors. The more civil they are, the larger their reach and influence — creating a virtuous cycle of positive engagement."

I've trying to find on their website a definition of toxic user. Has anyone else looked?

FrancescaContini · 20/11/2021 16:08

@DrBlackbird

ItsRaining Hasn’t the experience of Reddit shown that the real power to online commentary lies with moderators? If you silence those with concerns it’s so much easier to claim either no one cares or those that do care are a minority.

Also, Warwick has recently distributed pronouns badges, ran a survey managed by Stonewall, and has a page on ‘queering the university’. Now this Times article explains why.

Given the recent criticisms of Stonewall and loss of high profile diversity champions, perhaps there’s a push to rapidly disseminate its message as fast as possible through remaining partners?

Queering the university Grin WTAF does this MEAN?!
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