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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How Activist Teachers Recruit Kids

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FindTheTruth · 18/11/2021 18:45

well this is sadly not surprising

Abigail Shrier

abigailshrier.substack.com/p/how-activist-teachers-recruit-kids

Leaked Documents and Audio from the California Teachers Association Conference Reveal Efforts to Subvert Parents on Gender Identity

best practices for subverting parents, conservative communities and school principals on issues of gender identity

  • we started to try and identify kids. we totally stalked what they were doing on Google, when they weren’t doing school work. One of them was googling ‘Trans Day of Visibility.’ And we’re like ‘check.’ We’re going to invite that kid
  • The advice to those who run middle school LGBTQ clubs is: keep no records, so you can plead ignorance of the membership with the members’ parents.

-If students aren’t especially interested in attending an LGBTQ club, —a good place to start is with other people’s kids.

  • Do the 'gender stuff' at the beginning of the year. Parents who oppose this material being taught to their sixth graders will find that their objections arrive too late.
  • We never crossed a line,” she says. “We’ve wanted to, but we never have.”

California Teachers Association (CTA)
Gay-Straight Alliance” clubs or “GSA”

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FindTheTruth · 20/11/2021 06:29

[quote WarriorN]Update

abigailshrier.substack.com/p/update-from-the-school-district-re?action=share[/quote]
Was just coming to post this. they moved fast which is encouraging!

EXTRACT
The District has taken immediate steps to address several of the concerns raised in the article:

The student club mentioned in the article, UBU (You be You), has been suspended.

Any future student clubs will be required to submit an outline of all activities and materials before being allowed to meet. Student sign-in sheets will be maintained and parent/guardian permission slips will be sent home prior to a club holding a meeting.

All messaging shared in the morning announcements will now be controlled and distributed by the site principal. This practice will be in place permanently.

Any presentation or assembly involving sensitive themes such as sexuality will be created in line with state-approved standards and curriculum, and under the supervision of site and district administration. Materials of any sensitive themes will be shared with parents/guardians prior to being shown to students.

Teachers are prohibited from monitoring students’ online activity for any non-academic purposes.

Regarding the teachers involved, appropriate personnel steps are being taken to make sure such activities and comments will not be repeated

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WarriorN · 20/11/2021 08:50

Yes, encouraging and thank fuck for that!

TheBeardedVulture · 20/11/2021 11:20

This is unbelievably sinister. The stalking, the inviting vulnerable kids… these children are, what? 11, 12, 13? So starting puberty and probably freaking out about their changing bodies, and the feelings they are having towards their peers. It’s also an age where the relationship with your parents naturally changes and can become much more fraught- the last thing these people should be doing is encouraging alienation!

prudencepuffin · 20/11/2021 11:56

Vulture but they sure know encouraging alientation is effective. Good they were stopped in their tracks though.

ArabellaScott · 20/11/2021 12:28

Thank fuck for that.

appropriate personnel steps are being taken to make sure such activities and comments will not be repeated

Crucial. If anything good comes out of this shitshow, let's hope its more robust safeguarding.

MarshmallowSwede · 20/11/2021 12:37

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HoardingFloralBuntingInACervix · 20/11/2021 12:56

@MrsMadderRose

I have seen the grooming/paedophilia explanation before and that makes sense - and I think some of the concerns raised at the Tavi included parents with that kind of possible motive. But it seemed to be mainly women in that article. Maybe that is their motivation but that seems unlikely.

Maybe it is to with the cult-like aspect of it, that you have to recruit.

Ok, we really need to see how this trick works because they are going to be pushing this really hard now that the feminist viewpoint is getting airtime - enforcing women are crucial to male dominance.

This is true with broader Genderism, and it's true with very dark things like paedophilia. This is how female gendered socialization works.

I doubt many of the women involved are cognizant of their complicity in endangering children, but that doesn't change the reality.

There is a reason that all the spokespeople being wheeled out in support of the ideology currently are women. It's meant to undermine the concerns about women's rights and safeguarding more generally.

As uncomfortable as it is to acknowledge, some women in strategic positions benefit from supporting male dominance and will willingly screw over kids and other women to retain their status.

GoodieMoomin · 20/11/2021 13:11

Commenting again to bump this because it's so important.

In terms of what motivates these women to behave like this, I think the book The Righteous Mind, by Jonathan Haidt, may offer some insights in some cases. Specifically, the care/harm portion of the moral psychology framework which the book discusses.

I'm on the move so can't think fully to explain more right now but it really is a very useful book, and the audio version is great, Haidt has a very soothing voice

GoodieMoomin · 20/11/2021 13:16

www.waterstones.com/book/the-righteous-mind/jonathan-haidt/9780141039169

He also wrote the Coddling of the American Mind which is also very helpful for understanding exactly what in the ever loving shit is going on

MrsMadderRose · 20/11/2021 17:14

Thinking about this a bit more, and the idea of the "righteous mind" (haven't read the book, it looks good) it does apply to some of the leading female trans ideology "allies" on Twitter and those I know in RL, that they are very "well-behaved" and if you like gender-conforming women – in the sense of being kind, maternal, "unthreatening" and it's important to them to be seen as nice and supporting the underdog, and that can easily slip over into the "righteous". They are defending poor marginalised, discriminated-against unfortunates, and that makes them the better person.

I have pondered before on how one of the reasons gender ideology has taken hold is because it appeals to so many groups and types of people, for a range of often very different reasons.

Having said that I still find the recruitment aspect hard to get. I can't see how a trans person who had suffered with incurable GD would support self-ID for example, or celebrate the massive increase in trans-identifying people, or think they should be fast-tracked into hormones and surgery immediately. Predators taking advantage and attention-seeking sleb bandwagon-leapers are not a good look. Detransitioners who were not properly advised or were too young to decide, and who have been harmed are just awful to see. (I know some trans people do take this view too.) And I can't see why things like this don't seem to bother righteous handmaidens either.

MrsMadderRose · 20/11/2021 17:15

Thanks for the book links - I should read him but trying not to buy more books until I've read some of my pile :o

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/11/2021 17:27

I would strongly suggest that parents take a close look at the "Stonewall" / LGBT+ groups in their children's school as they may well find there are similar safeguarding breaches. I've come across 2 schools recently where staff have openly approached children, suggesting that they join these mixed age (11 - 16 / 18 years) groups. In one school a teacher filmed children (with no parental consent) discussing their personal feelings about their sexuality / beliefs they were born in the wrong body.

This is happening in some UK schools now

WarriorN · 22/11/2021 13:18

Just seen this. Re knives etc.

Ffs.

How Activist Teachers Recruit Kids
GrrrlPwr · 22/11/2021 13:35

So Madeline Burns was right about all of this, all along?

Bloody hell

This is so sinister it's terrifying

LobsterNapkin · 22/11/2021 14:51

@WarriorN

I have no idea what sort of safeguarding laws and practise they have there, but the fact they're knowingly avoiding keeping records would suggest that they know parents would complain and there'd be consequences.

I can imagine it's difficult for LGB in a very conservative environment too.

part of the reasons why TQ activists are so extreme is that they've sidled with the LGB. Parts of America are still far more homophobic than here as far as I can see.

Though the fact that they're not mentioning LGB makes me wonder if actually that's not really an issue.

There are a number of reasons that the US is more conservative on sexual issues, but the tactics of progressives there haven't helped, even before you get gender ideology added to the mix.

The GSA clubs and their approach don't seem to be quite the same as the UK. In the US it has been taken as read by progressives, including many school boards and teachers, that it is really important to shield students from their parents on sexuality issues. So this idea of them not keeping records is very common.

It's quite generally accepted among progressives that changing public attitudes by teaching kids ideas that contradict the parents regressive values is a very good thing.

There is a huge tension there between those who seem to believe that parents are basically a danger to be overcome, and those who push back and sometimes want almost no role for larger society in shaping their kids.

LobsterNapkin · 22/11/2021 15:20

@MrsMadderRose

Thinking about this a bit more, and the idea of the "righteous mind" (haven't read the book, it looks good) it does apply to some of the leading female trans ideology "allies" on Twitter and those I know in RL, that they are very "well-behaved" and if you like gender-conforming women – in the sense of being kind, maternal, "unthreatening" and it's important to them to be seen as nice and supporting the underdog, and that can easily slip over into the "righteous". They are defending poor marginalised, discriminated-against unfortunates, and that makes them the better person.

I have pondered before on how one of the reasons gender ideology has taken hold is because it appeals to so many groups and types of people, for a range of often very different reasons.

Having said that I still find the recruitment aspect hard to get. I can't see how a trans person who had suffered with incurable GD would support self-ID for example, or celebrate the massive increase in trans-identifying people, or think they should be fast-tracked into hormones and surgery immediately. Predators taking advantage and attention-seeking sleb bandwagon-leapers are not a good look. Detransitioners who were not properly advised or were too young to decide, and who have been harmed are just awful to see. (I know some trans people do take this view too.) And I can't see why things like this don't seem to bother righteous handmaidens either.

Women like this always remind me of some of the 19th century missionary women and those involved in the temperance movement and hygiene movements. And I'be found that today you tend to see a high correlation with women who are very inclined to be authoritarian with covid stuff, it all seems to related to a sort of purity/contamination thing.

That's not to say men were not also involved in those things because they were but they were often very female led in many communities. And it's also not to say there has never been real issues at stake - temperance was so compelling because of the real and horrific effects of the industrial production of cheap alcohol on the poor.

What always strikes me today though is most of these people are so very wedded to their vision of themselves as progressive, anti-authoritarian, creative, liberal, etc. It's all wedded to a kind of Whig history that gives them this peculiar right side of history narrative. I suppose that is really the faith element in it all, which in the 19th century would have been supplied by something like Methodism and regular chapel attendance.

Noreaster · 17/12/2021 15:42

The mother involved in this addressed the school board and the teachers Wednesday night. Her righteous anger is a thing to behold.

twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1471356907176615941

If you scroll down, the father spoke also.

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