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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

WoLF suing Californian Dept. of Corrections re men in women's prisons

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PandorasMailbox · 17/11/2021 20:28

I really hope that they win. But, even if they don't, that they at least make a lot more people sit up and take notice of what's happening.

"On November 17, 2021, we filed a civil rights lawsuit against the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) in response to SB 132, their policy of housing based on claimed “gender identity” instead of sex"

www.womensliberationfront.org/news/wolf-sues-california-department-of-corrections-to-restore-single-sex-prisons

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Megan1992xx · 17/11/2021 20:32

Putting transwomen in female prisons!

When is this madness going to stop?

BlueBrush · 17/11/2021 20:35

All the very best of luck to them.

BettyFilous · 17/11/2021 20:50

I hope they are successful.

Babdoc · 17/11/2021 21:21

Too late for all the poor women who have been sexually assaulted by the likes of "Karen" White. But please God this saves any future potential victims.

ScrollingLeaves · 17/11/2021 22:35

It would be good if all the unsuspecting American women start to notice what is happening.
The government might realise how many women, who are not far right at all, might align themselves against them in alliance with those who are.

CheeseMmmm · 18/11/2021 01:01

What happened about the thing also California where a request for info on how many males in women's prisons was blocked by a civil rights org (!) and the civil rights org were going to sue the woman/ the group that asked...

I suppose this has come out of it?

miri1985 · 18/11/2021 04:32

@CheeseMmmm

What happened about the thing also California where a request for info on how many males in women's prisons was blocked by a civil rights org (!) and the civil rights org were going to sue the woman/ the group that asked...

I suppose this has come out of it?

If we're thinking of the same case, that was Washington not California, the woman eventually got most (not all) of the information but had to go to court to get it

www.womensliberationfront.org/aclu-lawsuit-public-records

www.womensliberationfront.org/news/washington-aclu-male-rapists-confirmed

"The DOC records also confirm that there are prison infraction records and PREA (Prison Rape Elimination Act) records against several men who are currently housed in women’s prisons, including 309 pages of infraction records for a particular male inmate. However, the federal Judge has decided that none of those documents can be released to the public under the PRA, pending the Judge’s final rulings on the ACLU’s claims that releasing these records would violate the male prisoners’ privacy rights. "

MoonlightApple · 18/11/2021 13:56

I saw this too. Good luck to them! Apparently the current ‘solution’ is handing out contraception in women’s prisons.

ScrollingLeaves · 19/11/2021 10:12

I think there is a thread somewhere on this board where a compilation of cases like these is being logged. This is to counter the argument that, “It doesn’t happen.”

CheeseMmmm · 20/11/2021 23:01

Yes I could well have been wrong about state.. thanks!

CheeseMmmm · 20/11/2021 23:15

Just thinking.

With all of this topic so many of the arguments, context, references to historical situations etc from trans supporters is imported straight from USA.

Eg arguments citing historical segregation, the concept of anti carceral feminism. And of course using the situation for lgb and t people as all one thing where the laws etc are very different to here (we have EA and protected characteristics in law in England and Wales at least. Scotland wider I think now.. Don't know about NI sorry).

With prisons it's the same. The USA prison system is totally fucked up. Their incarceration rate for their population is massive. Prisons big part of economy in various ways. Run as businesses. Prison you work for free and that work is significant output. Huge sentences often totally different. Huge issues with racism etc.

Prisons massive and seem to be utterly brutal.

I was just reading a few links about trans inmates USA generally.

And realised that yet again it's just a totally different kettle of fish. Totally different context.

The things I read were clear it's men or women prison. That's that. So those arguing are coming from it due to the situation in male prisons. Yes they are choosing to support those males over the females. And ignoring the other males at risk.

But I can kind of get that s bit more.. Don't agree but understand.

It's totally different here. In no way same situation. Million miles apart.

So pleased about this case still. But if it's men's or women's that's that. Then it's a different fight. And much more difficult to resolve given their system.

I think this constant importing of USA stuff with no thought is really a big problem tbh.

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